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We want to replace our aging server at work and thinking of getting Dell PowerEdge T110 II server and Synology DS415+ NAS for our storage.
Our current server (which is also a storage) is being backed up to Carbonite cloud storage ($60 a year plan).
But it looks like Carbonite wants $270 a year to back up NAS devices :mad:.
I guess the basic plan doesn't work with mapped drives, only Pro versions.

What are my options? Which cloud backup solution will work with Synology NAS and cost reasonably? We have about 500Gb data to backup but it's growing.

Thanks
 
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We want to replace our aging server at work and thinking of getting Dell PowerEdge T110 II server and Synology DS415+ NAS for our storage.
Our current server (which is also a storage) is being backed up to Carbonite cloud storage ($60 a year plan).
But it looks like Carbonite wants $270 a year to back up NAS devices :mad:.
I guess the basic plan doesn't work with mapped drives, only Pro versions.

What are my options? Which cloud backup solution will work with Synology NAS and cost reasonably? We have about 500Gb data to backup but it's growing.

Thanks
I have a synology NAS, just 2 bay, 2 volumes, one backing up the other via Synology's Time Backup (versioning).

Clould backup is
  • Not trustworthy for sensitive data
  • Too slow to access due to residential ISP upstream speeds
  • Inferior to just doing backups to 2 other local media. Mine is USB3 drives, one out of sight of thieves.

I try all the cloud services to use for VIP file backups, not drive images or 100's of MB.

I found these two the best
OpenDrive, "custom" pricing plan. (I've used it for the last 4 years. First year they were awful. Good since).
ADrive. Good services, great pricing.

Ones I tried and disliked
CrashPlan
Amazon AWS (not suitable for consumer use)
Acronis Cloud (though I have long used/like Acronis True Image for drive imaging and cloning)
Carbonite - marketing good. Otherwise bad.
iDrive - inferior technically
Several based in the EU - I'm in the US and they are far too slow
Several that are rebranded versions of another service

I have at most about 500Mb or so on cloud. I DO NOT give them my financial records or personal info, due to risk of disgruntled employee/contractor. If you MUST, then use free version of SafeHouse Software to create and manage a virtual disk drive that is encrypted. You might dare to upload the virtual disk which is merely a file. For me, that file is much too big to upload to a cloud.

I also auto-backup VIP folders to a 32GB SD card in my NAS, and to a USB on the go thumb drive (tiny) on my keyring.

From several years' use as a consumer and work-at-home embedded systems consultant I have abut 700GB on the main volume and 800GB on the time backup. And a 2TB USB3 2.5 in drive for main backup. I don't do video DVD ripping and the like.
 
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So NAS and cloud backup services don't play together nicely?
 
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So NAS and cloud backup services don't pay[sic] together nicely?

Huh?

as said above, it's imprudent for many reasons, versus using local USB3 or eSATA and keeping one off-site or hidden from thieves' eyes.
 
Cloud backup is good for "disasters"...for many reasons.
*Automates....takes away the human element of forgetting or being lazy. Backups happen typically at least daily, if not in relative real time.
*Backs up your data offsite, so you're good if a floor or fire happens....your external USB drives are a melted puddle or pile of ashes...or underwater...what good are they now?
*Prices are so dirt cheap these days for offsite storage.....not really a big issue.

There are plenty of options for backing up offsite...where your data is secured properly.....encrypted upstream, or your can encrypt them before they get sent up to the cloud. So worries about some disgruntled employee or the cloud host being hacked....no worries. Home broken into? Your safe that had your backup drives stolen? No worries.

Plenty of technology in backup software now that efficiently manage your data on your bandwidth so even those with slow upload speeds don't have the pipe hammered all the time by the upload....in addition to throttling rules.

For businesses, especially with servers, the abilities of virtually booting up those backup images "in the cloud" and allowing access to their servers if disaster strikes the building....excellent for disaster recovery and business continuity...and we've actually done that for clients over recent years.
 
Cloud backup has very limited value as a backup, to consumers and SOHOs - because the internet uplink speed is slow.
Mostly sharing photos and the like. And keeping a copy of non-sensitive files. I never upload financial or personal info, even though I use SafeHouse software to encrypt a logical "drive" where all this is stored.
I rely on USB3 2TB 2.5" drive for my primary backup and storing drive images.
I have a small NAS with full backup and file versioning.
I fee that my data loss risks are:
  1. human error
  2. theft
  3. file system corruption or malware/SSL breach

I don't list drive failure because I don't use RAID in the NAS.

I've used most of the services. I settled on OpenDrive for several years. Now, I pay a small amount annually for ADrive. Great pricing and all the features I need.
Here's some I tried and rejected over the last few years.
These are ALL decidedly secondary to that local hard drive and the NAS two-volume backup. The USB3 drive is kept out of sight of burglars.
Backups are all automated/scheduled as it has to be.
  • Amazon Web Services (AWS)
  • RackSpace (AWS reseller)
  • Acronis (I do use their drive imaging and cloning)
  • OpenDrive
  • Carbonite
  • CrashPlan
  • iDrive
  • Dropbox
  • Mozy
  • Google Drive
  • BackBlaze
  • SoS
  • SpiderOak
  • Nero
  • Norton
 
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So NAS and cloud backup services don't play together nicely?

Recently came across iDrives Synology plugin....you can install their backup agent on the Synology's OS...and from there set it up to backup to their offsite servers. Works quite well.
 
I'm paying for ADrive - works well, far less costly than others.
I just have my PC using ADrive's desktop backup/sync send to ADrive the VIP folders on the NAS. I have about 5 backup jobs in ADrive's desktop, doing different folders at different intervals, e.g., folders I use a lot get backed up several times a (workday).
 
ADrive is $25/yr for 100GB which is more than I need. I do big backups on local drives. ADrive is good for sharing with password access and for backups of projects, not drives.
More prices
https://www.adrive.com/login/signup?package=3

Plugin for NASes... I don't think so. I have my PC do scheduled uploads from the NAS to ADrive. Some files on the PC are uploaded PC to Adrive.

I used to use OpenDrive - in some ways it's better, but more costly. I suspect most users there are selling downloads as that's an offered service. I think I'll avoid that crowd.
 
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