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Hello .

A total newbie me, found this forum while searching for router reviews.... yeah, obviously !
Too much stuff, and mostly overwhelming, considering my newbie status.
Still been reading through articles and stuff, and thought i would post my query in here too.

Now, I recently upgraded my old LCD panel, to a new Sony LED, that is Network enabled ( KDL 50W900B ).

My Modem cum router is the TP-Link W8968. It has a USB port and also has a Media Server option.
Filled up a USB with some media, plugged it in, and enabled media server.

Number of connected devices to this modem-router -
  1. LED Panel
  2. Desktop X 2 ( One continuously )
  3. Laptop ( On-Off )
  4. Android mobiles X 3
  5. Android Tab
  6. iPhone
  7. Wireless printer ( On-off )

Issues faced -
  1. USB media server, sometimes shows in LED and PC media library and sometimes does not.
  2. When it shows in the LED, it fails to read the contents. "Unable to connect to server" message.If it does connects, the TV reports no compatible file, where as it is fine when the same drive is connected directly to the panel.
  3. Poor HD streaming, either from PCs or the mobile devices . Almost negligible. Videos keep on loading and images take 2-10 secs.When the videos do play, they suddenly stop and the TV resumes and then again the video starts.
  4. TV remote app fails to find the LED panel.
  5. The printer although in wireless network, is reported as offline by the PC.
  6. iMediashare or BubblePnP, has same issues. Sometimes recognizes the PC and device media library and sometimes does not. A mere 20Kb image file sometimes takes too much time to be displayed on the LED. Going to he next photo hangs the LED media library .
  7. The Windows media player sometimes detects the Play to device ( Bravia LED or the BubblePnP ) and sometimes does not, inspite of the panel connected to the wifi network.

I just recently turned on these wireless capabilities, and did a lot of tinkering to even get the devices to talk to eachother, but now they seem to be unable to hold onto any conversations !

Are all these issues related to a bad router ?
or
Is it something else also that i am doing wrong or not paying attention to ?

A total newbie, so would really help any pointers.

Thanks guys !
 
I'll asume that the LED Panel is a TV with LED backlight and a WiFi connection.
Excluding that, I and others have that many or more devices. In my house there are a mix of apple tablets/phones and Andriod tablets and phones.
I use MoCA/cat5 to connect my TV rather than WiFi since streaming video, esp. HD, is not very WiFi friendly, and there's no way to get cat5 to that TV.

My and most desktops don't use WiFi. Run cat5 or put router in same room as desktop, since desktops want speed!
Same for printer - try not to use wireless if possible.

Sounds like the major issue is to get the TV on a wired (cat 5 or MoCA or IP over power wiring). Same too, for the desktop PC.

"without mobility, one shouldn't use wireless!)
 
Sounds like a router problem to me...

Also sounds like technology is getting ahead of Joe Six-Pak, and Joe is getting angry - it should just work...
 
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I'll asume that the LED Panel is a TV with LED backlight and a WiFi connection.
Excluding that, I and others have that many or more devices. In my house there are a mix of apple tablets/phones and Andriod tablets and phones.
I use MoCA/cat5 to connect my TV rather than WiFi since streaming video, esp. HD, is not very WiFi friendly, and there's no way to get cat5 to that TV.

My and most desktops don't use WiFi. Run cat5 or put router in same room as desktop, since desktops want speed!
Same for printer - try not to use wireless if possible.

Sounds like the major issue is to get the TV on a wired (cat 5 or MoCA or IP over power wiring). Same too, for the desktop PC.

"without mobility, one shouldn't use wireless!)

Sounds like a router problem to me...

Also sounds like technology is getting ahead of Joe Six-Pak, and Joe is getting angry - it should just work...

Thanks guys for the reply !

From the reading that i have been doing, i do understand streaming HD is not wirelessly feasible with this setup.

I have no idea what MoCA is !
Yes, i can try extending an ethernet Cat5 to the LED panel ( yes, its a backlit LED with wifi ), although a long way around, for better connectivity.

And the two desktops are wired over LAN to the router ( that sits in almost the middle of house ).

Wired is of course anytime more acceptable over wifi, but it too is of course required when we have devices like the mobiles and tabs.
Internet connectivity is not that big a issue in my set up.
Facing problems in the local network.

> TV mobile app fails to find the LED panel
> Windows PC fails to find/read the contents of another PC
> USB media drive on the router fails to show up and or read
> Same issues with the LED panel, fails to find local devices or read them

So i guess, these issues are router related, right !
The poor old Joe-Six pack :)

I was looking at the Asus RTN66U for upgrade ?
Any advice i should pay attention to ?
Any recommendations please ?
 
Nice TV :)

Wondering if location of the AP is the primary problem in relation to where the TV and the other wireless devices are. Walls will impact signal to-from the other devices, and need to sort that first before considering throwing more hardware into the mix.

MoCA is basically at a high level, moving ethernet over Coax... might be hard to find, heck even here in the US, one has to find them online, as most stores don't carry it much.

HomePlugs are a similar concept, except that it's over the mains power. They work pretty well, but might have issues going across power conditioners and UPS's, but that could be an option - also depends on how stable your power is, and make sure that whatever you get, if you decide to go that route, that they're compatible with your power sources...

Sounds like the TP-Link DSL Modem cum Router/AP is what we call in the US a combined gateway type of device - if you're considering something like the Asus RT-N66U (or similar), should look at the TP link device an ensure that it can be put into Bridge Mode, basically acting just as the DSL Modem, and let the new router of your choice do the routing and WiFi duties.

I wasn't trying to be mean spirited with the Joe Six-pak comment, actually it was perhaps a notation to the rest of us here - technology can sometimes be daunting, and things that should work, sometimes basically just don't. I think we've all been there at some time.
 
Hello .

A total newbie me, found this forum while searching for router reviews.... yeah, obviously !
Too much stuff, and mostly overwhelming, considering my newbie status.
Still been reading through articles and stuff, and thought i would post my query in here too.

Now, I recently upgraded my old LCD panel, to a new Sony LED, that is Network enabled ( KDL 50W900B ).

My Modem cum router is the TP-Link W8968. It has a USB port and also has a Media Server option.
Filled up a USB with some media, plugged it in, and enabled media server.

Number of connected devices to this modem-router -
  1. LED Panel
  2. Desktop X 2 ( One continuously )
  3. Laptop ( On-Off )
  4. Android mobiles X 3
  5. Android Tab
  6. iPhone
  7. Wireless printer ( On-off )

Issues faced -
  1. USB media server, sometimes shows in LED and PC media library and sometimes does not.
  2. When it shows in the LED, it fails to read the contents. "Unable to connect to server" message.If it does connects, the TV reports no compatible file, where as it is fine when the same drive is connected directly to the panel.
  3. Poor HD streaming, either from PCs or the mobile devices . Almost negligible. Videos keep on loading and images take 2-10 secs.When the videos do play, they suddenly stop and the TV resumes and then again the video starts.
  4. TV remote app fails to find the LED panel.
  5. The printer although in wireless network, is reported as offline by the PC.
  6. iMediashare or BubblePnP, has same issues. Sometimes recognizes the PC and device media library and sometimes does not. A mere 20Kb image file sometimes takes too much time to be displayed on the LED. Going to he next photo hangs the LED media library .
  7. The Windows media player sometimes detects the Play to device ( Bravia LED or the BubblePnP ) and sometimes does not, inspite of the panel connected to the wifi network.

I just recently turned on these wireless capabilities, and did a lot of tinkering to even get the devices to talk to eachother, but now they seem to be unable to hold onto any conversations !

Are all these issues related to a bad router ?
or
Is it something else also that i am doing wrong or not paying attention to ?

A total newbie, so would really help any pointers.

Thanks guys !
Hi,
If I were you, instead of trying to figure out things with those devices. Start with one device and when it works well add another and so on. By doing that you can narrow down and solve the problem. May take some time but
this is logical process, IMO. Good luck.
 
Nice TV :)

Wondering if location of the AP is the primary problem in relation to where the TV and the other wireless devices are. Walls will impact signal to-from the other devices, and need to sort that first before considering throwing more hardware into the mix.

MoCA is basically at a high level, moving ethernet over Coax... might be hard to find, heck even here in the US, one has to find them online, as most stores don't carry it much.

HomePlugs are a similar concept, except that it's over the mains power. They work pretty well, but might have issues going across power conditioners and UPS's, but that could be an option - also depends on how stable your power is, and make sure that whatever you get, if you decide to go that route, that they're compatible with your power sources...

Sounds like the TP-Link DSL Modem cum Router/AP is what we call in the US a combined gateway type of device - if you're considering something like the Asus RT-N66U (or similar), should look at the TP link device an ensure that it can be put into Bridge Mode, basically acting just as the DSL Modem, and let the new router of your choice do the routing and WiFi duties.

I wasn't trying to be mean spirited with the Joe Six-pak comment, actually it was perhaps a notation to the rest of us here - technology can sometimes be daunting, and things that should work, sometimes basically just don't. I think we've all been there at some time.


Thanks :)

I understand the MoCA part. Thats not feasible !

I do know a lil about the Power plugs, but i dont think, i'll be needing them either.

I get decent range coverage over the entire house. Range is not an issue. Also when connected, the devices easily can surf the WWW.
The issues are the ones i mentioned.

I can do away with a dedicated media server part, but yes, i would want streaming from the local mobile devices or the Windows PC to the LED panel or eachother devices ( SD and/or HD and Music ).
And the more troublesome part i would want to be resolved, is the intermittent and jerky handshakes b/w the various network devices.

TP-Link is hugely popular here in India !

So, would upgrading to the RT-N66U, solve these ?

And can you please also guide how to look for or setup the TP-Link w8968 as only a modem and transfer the routin part to the Asus RT-N66U ? Where in the settings to check for the Bridge part ?

And no mate, you weren't being mean spirited ;)
We all face issues !
 
Hi,
If I were you, instead of trying to figure out things with those devices. Start with one device and when it works well add another and so on. By doing that you can narrow down and solve the problem. May take some time but
this is logical process, IMO. Good luck.

Thanks Tony for the advice.

I did some tinkering, and testing.

And i said this before also, the WWW access to the devices works fine,

Its the local handshakes b/w the devices that is jittery and not smooth !

Any advice here ?
 
The problem here is you are only N 2.4 GHz. If you want to media stream you need to have at least a dual band router for wireless. Even so over LAN can still cause issues.

I am not sure what you want to stream but SD MP4's (up to 4mbps) I had no issue with my older Samsung NP60c6300sf, HD (10mbps+) caused the same pausing issues over network and if the video failed would give the can not support file type until everything was rebooted. My fix here was the purchase of a newer streaming BD player and putting it on the wired network.

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Streaming HD (not Netflix) on WiFi is going to be disappointing unless the RF path is short/clear.
Need wired connection, even 50Mbps wired (MoCA/HPNA, etc) is good enough.
 
Streaming HD (not Netflix) on WiFi is going to be disappointing unless the RF path is short/clear.
Need wired connection, even 50Mbps wired (MoCA/HPNA, etc) is good enough.

Not true, on N I can stream from the DLNA from the USB drive with no issue. The problem is you have to limit the devices. Once you get a lot of devices there even 300mbit gets choked quickly.
 
The problem here is you are only N 2.4 GHz. If you want to media stream you need to have at least a dual band router for wireless. Even so over LAN can still cause issues.

I am not sure what you want to stream but SD MP4's (up to 4mbps) I had no issue with my older Samsung NP60c6300sf, HD (10mbps+) caused the same pausing issues over network and if the video failed would give the can not support file type until everything was rebooted. My fix here was the purchase of a newer streaming BD player and putting it on the wired network.

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Thanks for the reply mate.
Yes i did learn, that for the intended purposes a dual band router is required !
 
Streaming HD (not Netflix) on WiFi is going to be disappointing unless the RF path is short/clear.
Need wired connection, even 50Mbps wired (MoCA/HPNA, etc) is good enough.
Not true, on N I can stream from the DLNA from the USB drive with no issue. The problem is you have to limit the devices. Once you get a lot of devices there even 300mbit gets choked quickly.

I tend to agree a bit here.
Sometimes, the LED panel is able to read and play lower bit rate files from my PC, and sometimes its even unable to read the contents of the PC library !
So i guess, the router reaching its headroom and getting choked, might be the reason.


If i am not wrong, getting a faster dual band router attached to this TPLink modem/router, should solve the issues.
 
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