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Hi!

I'm searching for a good AC router - 1750 or above.

Let's say I have a 1000Mbps speed internet connection at home (at the moment this is 500).
Would the new router still limit the bandwith?

I'm saying still cause comparing SNB's result on the v1 1043nd I have at the moment I have to agree cause it does limit bandwith near 120Mbps. (Without the router the speed is ok.)

Seeing the charts the maximum wan to lan speed is below 1000 so I think it would.
Please correct me if I'm wrong or just checking the wrong chart!

Hopefully I'm not asking a too stupid one...

Thanks for the help!
 
The latest routers with the most powerful cpu's would be your best bet on maximizing your ISP's connection. Especially if you want to enable advanced features that would disable HW acceleration.

Nothing I have seen will give you 1Gbps WAN/LAN or LAN/WAN performance, but the consumer versions that come closest in the Asus lineup are the RT-AC86P, RT-AC87U and the RT-AC3200 right now.
 
Behind the router.
Will share speed without it soon...
 

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500Mbps?? wow!

We were kind of spoiled in the early days of broadband, but later investments, operators are deploying some major bandwidth out there - gigabit connections are becoming more common, and 500Mbit connections are not so rare with Docsis 3.0...
 
if your internet is symmetrical than you will need to handle 1Gb/s for 500Mb/s internet and 2Gb/s for gigabit internet. So far there isnt yet a consumer router that can handle 2Gb/s without using hardware acceleration. The funny bit is that more features are being used on routers aside from just doing NAT such as with VPN and there isnt a consumer router that can handle VPNs at that speed.

Despite only having up to 100Mb/s of internet currently my router can perform software NAT at near wirespeed, uses standard DDR3 DIMMs that can be upgraded and performs 300Mb/s of VPN per cpu core(total 36) while consuming less energy than a PC would for that speed. Ofcourse its not something someone would use at home but i do. i also use a seperate asus router for wifi.

I think SNB is going to need VPN and firewall benchmarks too for routers, they already have usb SAMBA benchmarks.

I wouldnt call a dual core ARM A9 in those high end consumer routers as a strong CPU especially with the clocks they are using, broadcom could've used the ARM A15 instead which would've been much better, its like trying to use your phone from 2010 as a router.

If you want 2Gb/s of WAN and LAN communication consider getting something non consumer if you dont want the limitations of hardware acceleration, the prices arent very different and you could be getting more such as being able to upgrade the wifi cards, ram, SFP if you dont intend to use a PC with a router focused OS.
 
Hi!

No, this is assymetric.
At the moment I have a 500 / 200 Mbps connection a few weeks ago, but plan to upgrade to 1000 / 200 later.
The question is: is it worth it? I'm getting unsure more and more by now...

I think - seeing the SNB results - most of the new generation AC routers can handle 500Mbps wired (or a littlebit more, near 800-900Mbps if I'm right), but 1000Mbps seems to be now kind of a speed limit.

The picture I uploaded shows the limitation of the wr1043nd v1 router I have at the moment.
 
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ofcourse it is worth upgrading, your router is currently way too slow even for your current internet. Whether you get a fast software based router or one with hardware acceleration depends on your usage of features. If QoS, configurable firewall and control based features are important to you, get a non consumer software router like mikrotik that can handle those speeds and use an inexpensive AC wifi router as a wifi AP.

If you dont intend to play around with features and just need your router to do NAT than any good AC wifi router with hardware acceleration will be fast enough. Be sure to check the charts on SNB for their combined speeds. You need one that does 1200Mb/s combined WAN and LAN at least and something that can handle a lot of connections. Software routers with plenty of ram have no issues handling as many connections as you throw at it.
 
I would stick with the second option having a good consumer AC router.
Speaking about good ones: the prices here in Hungary are way too high in most of the cases. Some routers cost more than someones monthly income who does a simple operator job at a multinational company, but this is an another part of this story.

By the way under upgrading I meant the internet speed, not the router.
I need to get a new router. That's not a question. :)

Thanks for highlighting the combined speeds I will check those too.
 
Speaking about good ones: the prices here in Hungary are way too high in most of the cases. Some routers cost more than someones monthly income who does a simple operator job at a multinational company, but this is an another part of this story.

This is an excellent point that many folks lose sight up - Cost is indeed relative to income, so in some areas, a $200 USD router is a significant investment.

To the OP, it is amazing that one can get 500 Mbit connections that are affordable - here in the US, bandwidth is fairly expensive for what one gets..
 
upgrading your internet speed is always worth it if you can afford it and have the hardware to keep up. With improved uploads you can than host your own services for personal use instead of having to rely on paying for the services online.

If you have no need for the speed than it might be useless to upgrade.
 
On the price question let just have the operator's income as a basis of comparison.
They are earning about 350 US dollars a month (the average wage in Hungary in just over 500, beginner electrical engineeres for example get below 1000), so for them an Asus RT-AC68U (about 200 dollars) is a way too big investment and I'm not talking about the most expensive router.
In some areas you can get the mentioned 1000/200 internet (uploading maximum is not changing, you can "just" double your download speed) for 25 dollars or less depending if you would like to have wired phone and cable television.
I would not call this too expensive, but the whole stuff requires some technical background/knowledge/preparation what people keep forgetting and I also ran into this "trap" too.
 
They are earning about 350 US dollars a month (the average wage in Hungary in just over 500, beginner electrical engineeres for example get below 1000), so for them an Asus RT-AC68U (about 200 dollars) is a way too big investment and I'm not talking about the most expensive router.

Thanks for the info, and probably a very good reason for the site to look at some of the budget alternatives - challenge here in the US (where the site is based) is that many may not be available due to FCC certs...

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It's all relative... 300-400 Euros/Month is a decent wage in many countries, but in the US, where most of the vendors are focused on the higher end, that wage would make things a challenge.

It also makes many of the higher end products out of reach for many - it's either paying the rent/buying food, or several months of savings on the budget to buy the latest/greatest AC1900+ device - and in many countries, they might be even more expensive that we see in the North American market - basically it's just not practical to even consider..

But to get decent performance on a high-speed connection - Believe me, you're fortunate to have 500Mbit service, most of us in the US/Canada would very much appreciate that even if it were available - heck I pay $60USD for fair service at 60Mbit down/5Mbit up, and I'm happy to pay that...

So there's a bit of an imbalance - most of the vendors have really been focused on the WLAN side, and the WAN/LAN interface for the lower cost tiers has been a secondary priority...

Many of us should be so fortunate to afford to have the toys that we have here, and the access to them.​

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