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htismaqe · May 29, 2015

You're taking a super simplified example and extrapolating from that. Changing one or two characters in a mnemonic means it's no longer a dictionary word. Again, it's been tested, they really are just as secure, as long as you follow the simple guidelines listed on that page.

We might as well agree to disagree because this could go on forever.

L&LD · May 29, 2015

The problem with passwords if they have to be typed in is that someone / something can be looking / logging the keystrokes too as they are entered. Fingerprint scanners are much better than any passwords when in a public location, for example.

This thread is very interesting, btw.

htismaqe · May 29, 2015

L&LD said:
The problem with passwords if they have to be typed in is that someone / something can be looking / logging the keystrokes too as they are entered. Fingerprint scanners are much better than any passwords when in a public location, for example.

This thread is very interesting, btw.

You are totally right, not only from a security standpoint but from a practical standpoint. Unlocking the iPhone got infinitely more convenient the second it started recognizing my fingerprints.

Nullity · May 30, 2015

L&LD said:
The problem with passwords if they have to be typed in is that someone / something can be looking / logging the keystrokes too as they are entered. Fingerprint scanners are much better than any passwords when in a public location, for example.

This thread is very interesting, btw.

What happens when your finger-print is leaked?

Well, I guess we do have 9 more. I dunno if people will resort to using their feet after 9 password changes though... haha. The permanence of finger-prints (or faces) is a problem. I doubt biometrics are a universal solution.

If you have an interest in security or related topics, Bruce Schneier is a great person to follow. As a casual techie, I really enjoy his insight into fields I have no hope of fully understanding.

htismaqe · May 30, 2015

Nullity said:
What happens when your finger-print is leaked?

That's what retinal scanners are for!

sfx2000 · May 30, 2015

Nullity said:
What happens when your finger-print is leaked?

Well, I guess we do have 9 more. I dunno if people will resort to using their feet after 9 password changes though... haha. The permanence of finger-prints (or faces) is a problem. I doubt biometrics are a universal solution.

One of scary things about biometrics is that cop's and court's can compel you to provide a fingerprint or retina scan without impinging on your rights, same with DNA samples, breathalyzers, etc...

A password, on the other hand, well, that is protected as a constitutional right in many countries, including here in the US...

sfx2000 · May 30, 2015

htismaqe said:
Unlocking the iPhone got infinitely more convenient the second it started recognizing my fingerprints.

TouchID get definitely more interesting to the TSA, Public Safety Departments, etc...

I don't enable TouchID on my iPhone5s just for that fact.. not that I have anything to really worry about, but again, I don't let cops search my car without a warrant either...

htismaqe · May 30, 2015

It's all good. I bought one of these today...

sfx2000 · May 30, 2015

htismaqe said:
It's all good. I bought one of these today...

Folded wrong...

htismaqe · May 31, 2015

Yeah, without the tassel, it's pretty much useless.

sfx2000 · May 31, 2015

htismaqe said:
Yeah, without the tassel, it's pretty much useless.

Well, the external tassel does improve reception, but a properly designed internal tassel can be just as effective

Anyways, I agree - we've really gone off the range here

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