Help buy the Access point

htismaqe said:

@System Error Message - I wasn't talking specifically about this thread but more about your advocacy of Mikrotik in general. I don't have a problem with it, I just want to make sure it's clear that Mikrotik is more of an enthusiast/professional solution than most of the things we discuss here.

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Tend to agree - the Microtik boxen, they're pretty cool for those who have advanced knowledge of networking and wireless - but for the general public, there are perhaps better solutions from a usability perspective.

Good enough is good enough...

htismaqe said:

I hear you. I started out messing with VAX VMS and DECNet in the college computer lab and turned it into a 20-year career. The problem is that a lot of people, while having the capability, don't have the time or determination that you do. I know I don't anymore, even though I did 10-15 years ago. Sometimes people just want to plug it in and walk away.

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Without getting too far off track...

I started my development work on VMS - so I know it pretty well...

I issued an RFP a couple of years back, and one of the platforms, believe it or not, was OpenVMS based - and at the end of the day, we declined, as my Operations team was Solaris/Linux - at the end of the day, even though the platform was very capable (VMS Clusters, very cool), the environment was rejected...

Even with folks that know their "stuff", usability is key...

VMS, RSX-11
didn't have a mouse.
but they NEVER crashed.

I went from VMS in college to VMS and DEC Alpha's at my first ISP job. Then I went to work for a manufacturer who had some HPUX on 3000's but was still running primary manufacturing apps on an HP System One.

timtran99 said:

Hi All,

I have office around 50pp. setting up the wireless. I have router i want buy the Access Point. Anybody know which model can support 50user(wireless client)
My office have L: 70m and W: 25m , few Wall thick 25cm.

Any model AC can support my purpose pls let me know.
Thank you very much.

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I'll bring up another approach:

Mac Mini Server with two Airport Extreme AC's, GigE switch.

MacMini - $499 - 4/500 config, which includes two TB ports, and 4 USB3 ports for storage
OSX Server - $29
Apple GigE Thunderbolt Adapter - $29
Airport Extreme AC's - $140/each on the Apple Refurb Store
Generic unmanaged 8-port GigE switch - $40

With OSX server - One gets a full DNS server (not dnsmasq), DHCP, Radius for authentication, L2TP/IPSec and PPTP VPN servers, and centralized management of the AP's and User Accounts - also includes OpenDirectory and SMB/AFP file servers... and it's an unrestricted Client License...

Less than $1000 out the door, and more than enough horsepower to handle a 50 user office environment.

stevech said:

VMS, RSX-11
didn't have a mouse.
but they NEVER crashed.

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Getting slightly off range - old-fart remembrances

Completely agree - I've seen VAXen with years of uptime - VMS is old, but it was incredibly stable.... individual apps/processes might crash, but never to the point of taking down the system

11/780 for development, and we deployed on a 42 unit MicroVAX cluster - zero downtime across the cluster, even though we'd have the occasional MV2 node go down - but that was easy, just down the box, make the fixes, and bring it back up and resync...

Spent many hours staring into Vt420's, and my main Dev station was a MacII with a 20" Grey Scale display...

Also, these didn't have a .NET interpreter (band-aid for bad apps).