Need some advice with new Ubiquiti home setup...

Bob Loblaw · Jul 26, 2015

I'm only network savvy enough to be dangerous. So please be patient.

I have a new Ubiquiti EdgeRouter, a Linksys POE switch (unmanaged), and a Ubiquiti UniFi AP Pro.

EdgeRouter --> Switch --> UniFi AP.

And of course I have other devices wired into the switch. I am coming from a consumer router type setup (but also using the same Linksys switch), and in that setup I could access and manage the wired devices in the switch (set fixed AP, port forward, etc) from the router. But with the new setup I can not access these devices. The UniFi AP can not see the other wired devices in the switch, only wireless devices attached to itself (the AP). And the router doesn't seem to do this either.

How would one accomplish this with this setup? Reading about managed switches this morning it doesn't even seem like I could do these things (port forward/set fixed IP) with one. Or can it?

thiggins · Jul 26, 2015

Ubiquiti products are not designed for folks like you, Bob, so I admire your courage.

Your first job is to set up the EdgeRouter so that it gets you connected to the Internet and serves DHCP to clients connected to its LAN side.

UniFi APs require controller software installed on a Windows machine to at least set them up. [Review]

Bob Loblaw · Jul 26, 2015

Thanks thiggins. It's been a bit tough but I'm fighting through. I'm interested in understanding it all better so I thought I'd give it a whirl.

I did get the router set up and the AP working. DHCP seems to be set up correctly. I think? I'm just using one port (eth0) at this time for LAN. It is labeled LAN1 in the first attached screenshot. eth1 is WAN/Internet. See second screenshot. How do I see the devices that are attached to the linksys switch that is attached to that port (eth0/LAN1)? Thanks for your reply by the way.

thiggins · Jul 26, 2015

You should be able to plug a computer into the switch and let it get IP via DHCP. It should should have a 192.168.1.X IP address with Gateway 192.168.1.1. You should then be able to ping the router at 192.168.1.1 and the AP at whatever its 192.168.1.X IP address is.

netwrks · Jul 26, 2015

Bob Loblaw said:
Thanks thiggins. It's been a bit tough but I'm fighting through. I'm interested in understanding it all better so I thought I'd give it a whirl.

I did get the router set up and the AP working. DHCP seems to be set up correctly. I think? I'm just using one port (eth0) at this time for LAN. It is labeled LAN1 in the first attached screenshot. eth1 is WAN/Internet. See second screenshot. How do I see the devices that are attached to the linksys switch that is attached to that port (eth0/LAN1)? Thanks for your reply by the way.

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ON the Dashboard page Click on DHCP (Bottom Left of page). On DHCP page, on the far right, you will see Actions button. It's a drop down. Have look.

Here's a link to the Ubiquiti Forum: http://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/bd-p/EdgeMAX

Bob Loblaw · Jul 27, 2015

netwrks said:
ON the Dashboard page Click on DHCP (Bottom Left of page). On DHCP page, on the far right, you will see Actions button. It's a drop down. Have look.

Here's a link to the Ubiquiti Forum: http://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/bd-p/EdgeMAX

THANK YOU for this! It is possible. I found the listing of attached devices under the "View Leases" drop down. I was looking for a new switch and now I can stop that. I can see almost everything except two devices - my single IP camera and a printer. I just need to figure out why they aren't appearing. But thank you so very much.

netwrks · Jul 27, 2015

Bob Loblaw said:
THANK YOU for this! It is possible. I found the listing of attached devices under the "View Leases" drop down. I was looking for a new switch and now I can stop that. I can see almost everything except two devices - my single IP camera and a printer. I just need to figure out why they aren't appearing. But thank you so very much.

If the devices have a true static IP Address, then it will not show up on the router, as it is not in the DHCP pool, nor, is it a reserved IP Address..

EDIT: You could re-address the devices with an address within the pool then reserve the IP Address (what UBNT calls "configure static map") for the devices. They should show up at that point.

htismaqe · Jul 27, 2015

I prefer using static maps (DHCP reservations) as opposed to truly static assignments. It gives me much better central control and monitoring.

netwrks · Jul 27, 2015

htismaqe said:
I prefer using static maps (DHCP reservations) as opposed to truly static assignments. It gives me much better central control and monitoring.

Yup.. Routers, AP's, switches, printers, etc, at the top of the subnet, user's after. My preference anyway..

htismaqe · Jul 27, 2015

I have networking equipment (routers, switches, APs) at the beginning of the subnet and shared services (servers, NAS, printers) at the end. I have the dynamic scope sandwiched in between.

Bob Loblaw · Jul 27, 2015

netwrks said:
If the devices have a true static IP Address, then it will not show up on the router, as it is not in the DHCP pool, nor, is it a reserved IP Address..

EDIT: You could re-address the devices with an address within the pool then reserve the IP Address (what UBNT calls "configure static map") for the devices. They should show up at that point.

This helped greatly to know, thank you. I am not 100% sure what your edit meant but for the devices that were missing I addressed them via their IP web interface or separate software (the IP camera in this case) and released the static/assigned IP and now everything is showing up except one Zebra thermal printer. I'll keep digging on that one.

Bob Loblaw · Jul 27, 2015

htismaqe said:
I prefer using static maps (DHCP reservations) as opposed to truly static assignments. It gives me much better central control and monitoring.

netwrks said:
Yup.. Routers, AP's, switches, printers, etc, at the top of the subnet, user's after. My preference anyway..

You guys have all been a tremendous help thank you. Got a few questions about this.

1. I am assigning static IPs using the "Map Static IP" function under the DHCP / Leases section of my EdgeRouter Lite. Is this the preferred method you are talking about above?

What do you mean by "truly static assignments."? Assigned on the device itself?

2. Regardless of how it's done, is there a disadvantage to assigning static IPs to everything on the network? I feel like I want to do this but am not sure it is smart.

3. Is there really a difference to where in the subnet I assign things? Your numbering scheme mentioned above - is this for logical / preference reasons or there is an advantage performance-wise?

netwrks · Jul 27, 2015

Bob Loblaw said:
You guys have all been a tremendous help thank you. Got a few questions about this.

1. I am assigning static IPs using the "Map Static IP" function under the DHCP / Leases section of my EdgeRouter Lite. Is this the preferred method you are talking about above?

What do you mean by "truly static assignments."? Assigned on the device itself?

2. Regardless of how it's done, is there a disadvantage to assigning static IPs to everything on the network? I feel like I want to do this but am not sure it is smart.

3. Is there really a difference to where in the subnet I assign things? Your numbering scheme mentioned above - is this for logical / preference reasons or there is an advantage performance-wise?

Static Mapping is equivalent to Address Reservation, which is an easier way to set things up.

"truly static assignments." - I was referring to configuring a device with a static ip address. Assigning static ip's is more time consuming. Go the Ip reservation route.

Where you start your IP address assignments is purely a preference.

htismaqe · Jul 28, 2015

Bob Loblaw said:
You guys have all been a tremendous help thank you. Got a few questions about this.

1. I am assigning static IPs using the "Map Static IP" function under the DHCP / Leases section of my EdgeRouter Lite. Is this the preferred method you are talking about above?

What do you mean by "truly static assignments."? Assigned on the device itself?

Correct. There are really two types of address assignments - static and dynamic.

Static addresses are hard-coded on the device. Dynamic assignments are assigned over the network via DHCP or similar mechanism.

Within dynamic assignments, you have two types - pool and reserved. Pool means your device gets a random address from a pool of addresses. Reserved addresses are pre-configured in the DHCP server so that the device gets the same address every time.

In your case, Ubiquiti is using "static map" interchangeably with DHCP-reserved, which created the confusion. You've done it the right way.

Bob Loblaw said:
2. Regardless of how it's done, is there a disadvantage to assigning static IPs to everything on the network? I feel like I want to do this but am not sure it is smart.

The only downside is administrative. If you're not able to export your config to a flat text file (common with consumer routers that don't have telnet/SSH access) then you're looking at having to set it all up again if you ever need to clear your settings. For me, it isn't that big of a deal to do, so I use reservations for all of my devices. Only guests are assigned out of the pool.

Bob Loblaw said:
3. Is there really a difference to where in the subnet I assign things? Your numbering scheme mentioned above - is this for logical / preference reasons or there is an advantage performance-wise?

It's purely administrative.

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