Quick question about RT N66U and At&t Gigapower

wallaby32 · Aug 27, 2016

I did some searching on the forums and couldn't find any answers that completely satisfied me.

So, technician appointment on Monday (aug 29th) to bring a new At&t modem and register it for the new Gigapower service in my area. (1 gbps down/up) This is all I am saying about the modem since it is out of the scope of my question and maybe these forums as well.

To the point, I have an Asus RT N66U.

Has worked beautifully with my current fiber connection of 75mbps Down/8mbps up. Will this router be powerful enough to push gigabit speeds to my hardwired clients? (any input on wireless speeds is welcomed as well)

I assume I will need to have CTF(cut through forwarding) enabled. I will also need to double check device hardware (laptop ethernet adapters for example). but, beyond that, can anyone speak first hand about maximum wan speeds achieved from the Asus RT N66U?

thanks for all the help over the years

dlandiss · Aug 27, 2016

Throughput charts here.

wallaby32 · Aug 27, 2016

dlandiss said:
Throughput charts here.

thanks. not sure how i didn't come across this in my searches.

but, anyway, by looking at this, it seems I will be topped out around 730mbps wired. so, my next question is, is this a hardware limitation or software?

I am using johns fork and I have my cpu overclocked to 662mhz.

If this is the true limit, I guess I will need to look into picking up another router that can handle these speeds. Any suggestions? (<$300)

dlandiss · Aug 27, 2016

How often will you really need the ultimate speed? 730Mbps (not mbps) is pretty darned fast. Internet sites are not going to deliver anything near that to you. Even if they did that's like 20 MP3 music tunes per second.

wallaby32 · Aug 27, 2016

dlandiss said:
How often will you really need the ultimate speed? 730Mbps (not mbps) is pretty darned fast. Internet sites are not going to deliver anything near that to you. Even if they did that's like 20 MP3 music tunes per second.

Mostly uploading to ftp servers and govt servers for work. Thats why I wanted to maximum wired connections.

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dlandiss · Aug 28, 2016

wallaby32 said:
Mostly uploading to ftp servers and govt servers for work.

Assuming the remote servers would accept such fast uploads, your best bet might be to The Small Net Builder Router Chart section and look for a router with that level of bandwidth.

I don't think you will notice any difference. A 100MB file (call it 800Mb) at 800 Mbps would take 1 second to transfer. At a full 1000Mbps it would take 0.8 seconds. It takes me longer than that to reach for my mouse!

wallaby32 · Aug 28, 2016

dlandiss said:
Assuming the remote servers would accept such fast uploads, your best bet might be to The Small Net Builder Router Chart section and look for a router with that level of bandwidth.

I don't think you will notice any difference. A 100MB file (call it 800Mb) at 800 Mbps would take 1 second to transfer. At a full 1000Mbps it would take 0.8 seconds. It takes me longer than that to reach for my mouse!

yeah, our servers out in Denver are all fiber 1gigabit connections. Finally catching up in my area.

I do get what you are saying. but, it's more of a bang for my buck than a practical use case. You know?

dlandiss · Aug 28, 2016

wallaby32 said:
I do get what you are saying. but, it's more of a bang for my buck than a practical use case. You know?

Yep, I know. I am pleased to know that my car can reach 140mph even if there is no place near here where I can use that!

wallaby32 · Aug 28, 2016

dlandiss said:
Yep, I know. I am pleased to know that my car can reach 140mph even if there is no place near here where I can use that!

there's always a place to go 140mph. hahaha

Chris313AllNight · Aug 29, 2016

wallaby32 said:
thanks. not sure how i didn't come across this in my searches.

but, anyway, by looking at this, it seems I will be topped out around 730mbps wired. so, my next question is, is this a hardware limitation or software?

I am using johns fork and I have my cpu overclocked to 662mhz.

If this is the true limit, I guess I will need to look into picking up another router that can handle these speeds. Any suggestions? (<$300)

While 730 is nothing to sneeze at, if you have a Gig line both ways, I'd look into getting either of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01707HPKS/?tag=snbforums-20 OR the 8 port version: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016EWKQAQ/?tag=snbforums-20 Both are within your 300 budget and will get like 940 if I remember correctly.

Hope that helps you. Enjoy your gig. I'm very envious. Comcast hasn't even gotten to 100 here yet.

wallaby32 · Aug 29, 2016

Chris313AllNight said:
While 730 is nothing to sneeze at, if you have a Gig line both ways, I'd look into getting either of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01707HPKS/?tag=snbforums-20 OR the 8 port version: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016EWKQAQ/?tag=snbforums-20 Both are within your 300 budget and will get like 940 if I remember correctly.

Hope that helps you. Enjoy your gig. I'm very envious. Comcast hasn't even gotten to 100 here yet.

yeah, that's a good recommendation for a router. I do think I will have to upgrade. check out these shots.

You see the speed test results. Looks pretty good for the old RT-N66U!
but, check out the next shot. 94% utilization of my cpu to pull those speeds. lol

Put quite the strain on this router to pull speeds this high, I can't actually get good real world performace out of it. uploads fail, downloads drop to 0, etc... looking into buying the RT-AC3100, if everyone thinks it will perform the way I think I will.

doczenith1 · Aug 29, 2016

My recommendation would be the recently released AC-1900P which is a Best Buy exclusive. It is similar to the AC-68U but with a faster CPU at 1400 Mhz vs. 1000 for the B1 and C1 revisions. I have a 1 gig FTTH connection and with my 68U I get 945 up and down with minimal cpu usage (CTF (Cut Through Forwarding) and FA (Flow Acceleration) enabled). When I turn on the AiProtection features I lose the FA but keep the CTF and when doing speed test core 1 is maxed and core 2 is negligible. I see around 840 down and 940 up. The 3100 class routers are nice but with the lack of 4x4 clients they currently don't offer much benefit over the 1900 3x3 class routers at close to double the price. More 1900P info here: http://www.snbforums.com/threads/rt-ac-1900p-at-best-buy.33156/

P.S. I also somewhat agree with the previous comments about actually utilizing the full gigabit speeds. Even during some heavy duty torrenting sessions I've only hit around 700 Mbps. But at the same time I agree that if you're paying for 1 gig then why let an older router get in the way

wallaby32 · Aug 29, 2016

doczenith1 said:
My recommendation would be the recently released AC-1900P which is a Best Buy exclusive. It is similar to the AC-68U but with a faster CPU at 1400 Mhz vs. 1000 for the B1 and C1 revisions. I have a 1 gig FTTH connection and with my 68U I get 945 up and down with minimal cpu usage (CTF (Cut Through Forwarding) and FA (Flow Acceleration) enabled). When I turn on the AiProtection features I lose the FA but keep the CTF and when doing speed test core 1 is maxed and core 2 is negligible. I see around 840 down and 940 up. The 3100 class routers are nice but with the lack of 4x4 clients they currently don't offer much benefit over the 1900 3x3 class routers at close to double the price. More 1900P info here: http://www.snbforums.com/threads/rt-ac-1900p-at-best-buy.33156/

P.S. I also somewhat agree with the previous comments about actually utilizing the full gigabit speeds. Even during some heavy duty torrenting sessions I've only hit around 700 Mbps. But at the same time I agree that if you're paying for 1 gig then why let an older router get in the way

interesting recommendation. I will look into this. Thank you.

edit: after looking. Do you think while having AiProtection on with the 1900p it may still keep around 900mbps? with the faster cores? also, is this chipset OC-able? lol

sfx2000 · Aug 29, 2016

wallaby32 said:
So, technician appointment on Monday (aug 29th) to bring a new At&t modem and register it for the new Gigapower service in my area. (1 gbps down/up) This is all I am saying about the modem since it is out of the scope of my question and maybe these forums as well.

Ok, it's the 29th - so the uVerse Tech should have been there at the house - should have been a fair amount of work for him, including perhaps an upgrade to the NID box outside of the house as well as a new RG inside the house - from what I've been told, the ATT Gigapower RG's are pretty stout in an of themselves with regards to WiFi and Routing...

(They did a recent roll on the RG's for Gigapower, and the RG's there are 802.11AC class, I'm told...)

wallaby32 · Aug 29, 2016

sfx2000 said:
Ok, it's the 29th - so the uVerse Tech should have been there at the house - should have been a fair amount of work for him, including perhaps an upgrade to the NID box outside of the house as well as a new RG inside the house - from what I've been told, the ATT Gigapower RG's are pretty stout in an of themselves with regards to WiFi and Routing...

(They did a recent roll on the RG's for Gigapower, and the RG's there are 802.11AC class, I'm told...)

haha U-verse tech did not do much at all. the NID I was using before was already FTTH with my 75mbps/8mbps service. but, all he did show up and replace my DVR box and confirm with the back office to put in the Gigabit card. idk?

but anyway, the RG I have is not AC. I do have another one on order, but, it's only 5ghz N I believe. the NVG589 I have right now, it only has 2.4ghz hahahaha

sfx2000 · Aug 30, 2016

wallaby32 said:
haha U-verse tech did not do much at all. the NID I was using before was already FTTH with my 75mbps/8mbps service. but, all he did show up and replace my DVR box and confirm with the back office to put in the Gigabit card. idk?

Job Ticket perhaps for the truck roll... SDA techs are limited to what's in the ticket there, happens, even though many would like to do more, there's rules there...

but anyway, the RG I have is not AC. I do have another one on order, but, it's only 5ghz N I believe. the NVG589 I have right now, it only has 2.4ghz hahahaha

Be focused on what you want - Gigapower is a priority - be nice with Customer Care, and they'll get the tickets opened so you get the right gear... I've heard the Gigapower GW's are pretty good...

wallaby32 · Aug 30, 2016

sfx2000 said:
Job Ticket perhaps for the truck roll... SDA techs are limited to what's in the ticket there, happens, even though many would like to do more, there's rules there...

Be focused on what you want - Gigapower is a priority - be nice with Customer Care, and they'll get the tickets opened so you get the right gear... I've heard the Gigapower GW's are pretty good...

I do have an NVG599 coming today, I think it has 5ghz AC we will see.

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