How to configure NAS for IP Cameras?

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  1. XyberEd

    XyberEd New Around Here

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    Hi,
    I want to setup IP cameras with remote storage before video data is transmitted to the controlling PC.
    I am thinking of using TrendNet TVIP301W cameras connected to a wireless router with the TSU200. Will it be possible for the TS200 to store or record the video signal from the camera to external drive while the router relays the signal to the control PC? :confused:
     
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  3. thiggins

    thiggins Mr. Easy Staff Member

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    Direct recording from IP camera to NAS is not a generally-available feature.
    Synology has added the feature to some of its NASes. But they support only particular cameras.
    http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30458/75/1/2/

    Be careful of claims of direct-to-NAS recording from some IP cameras. Some of them require that you are logged into the camera from a web browser that is running an applet that does the recording.
     
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    i've been through rounds with trying to do this. you'll probably never be able to record video, per say. its just not a feature that ip cameras support. generally, how video is recorded is by streaming a video format from the camera and then depending upon the receiving computers processor to package it into file chunks. i've never seen a camera that was capable of packaging video content to deliver it directly to a nas.

    if your computers going to be on all the time, any recording software should allow you to store the packaged content onto an nas. but in my case, i didn't want to have a computer on.

    almost all cameras do have the capability to ftp images anywhere. you program a certain number of images to be recorded on an alarm event. i used a dlink dsm g600 network server because this is the only network server i've ever seen that can act as an ftp server. it has another feature 802.11 that allows me to put it in a fire safe and designate the dlink as my primary ftp server and i have an online server as the backup.

    i use toshiba wk-11 cameras and it works just fine with one word of caution: the dlink internal drive will not let you see files on a directory that has thousands of files, which will happen in just a few days after you start recording. it records fine, but locks up when you try to view them from the network. if you record to an internal drive, your screwed unless you want to pull the drive and boot it from a linux box. my advice is to use an external usb drive attached to the dlink (which is another nice feature). if you need to review video, you can pull the usb drive and plug it into xp box to review the hundreds of thousands of files that will eventually be on there.

    another feature to point out on the wk-11 is the ability to have it save the jpgs to an sd card on the camera, if you think it would be unlikely you would have the camera (and thus the video) stolen. this is what i normally do on my kams because it would take a 20' extension ladder to get to my cameras. the sd card can be pulled if it has to, but the images can be seen through ie browser.

    dlink used to make a first-generation kamera wired or wireless and i can't recall the model, but it was their first camera they made about 10 years ago. it was actually dlink branded and trendnet had the same branded camera. it was the only camera i've ever seen that would ftp, and have the kamera manage your ftp directory. so you could keep 100 or 1000 or however many of the most recent photos you wanted and the camera would overwrite old files and create new ones. this made for some mind-boggling ie video applications for reviewing the photos because you could write scripts using the same filenames for all the photos, no matter when they were taken. every other camera i've seen embeds time and date in the filename so its difficult to use an automated script to display files. you have to hunt and find the photo you want and click on it.
     
  5. Simon Hall

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    Actually the statement below is quite incorrect. It is true that most IP cameras, even today in 2011, still cannot direct record to NAS - and require additional DVR/NVR surveillance software installed somewhere on the network to manage the video recording. However, since 2002, MOBOTIX has successfully developed IP cameras that can record directly to NAS, or even internal flash card or an external HDD - without any additional software. How? To find out more, check out this video tutorial - IP Camera System Buyer's Guide which explains how MOBOTIX has made this possible.

     
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  6. claykin

    claykin Very Senior Member

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    This sounds like a MOBOTIX sales ad.
     
  7. stevech

    stevech Part of the Furniture

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    My job involves IP video at large scale, with archiving, event recording etc. On the camera side (vs. archiver side) Sony and Axis and a tiny few others are striving for first-ever standards for interoperability. But as ever, proprietary jockying has slowed this, notably Pelco dragging their feet. MPEG 4 is a standard, but the transport wrapper is not standardized, nor session management. Especially for consumer/cheap-o cameras that push a Java or Active-X applet. An example archive manager is from Nice Systems. Axis and others have small scale archivers. All have pre-event alarm triggering, e.g., record only around events, drop all other, or record at low frame rates but increase at time of event.
     
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  8. Simon Hall

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    yes its an ad for my video tutorial
     

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