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Asus Guest Network = Prolly Other Solution

Dafish2

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For short we'll just call the guest network title "POS" and move on. Before somebody challenges this, a few things:

1) Base setup was done with only one router that was factory reset and running latest firmware.
2) It's not like configuring it is hard, it's that it doesn't work.
A. 5ghz appeared to work fine. At least very early testing suggested that.
B. A 2.4 guest nework killed the production network over and over and over. I lost count of the reboots, factory resets, and different config tweaks made. The guest network, once configured, blocked the production 2.4 from accepting clients. I changed pretty much everything, from scads of 2.4 tuning/problem/reliability threads and decades of DIY with this stuff. Nada. In fact, even disabling the guest network didn't work. And since it can't be deleted, on disabled, it required a factory reset to return the production SSIS to working.

Shame that, for using AIMesh sounded like a good idea instead of downstream AP's, and by now I expect its stable. Course I expected Guest Networks to be stable too. But if the thing is that unstable, then screw that.

What's next? I really need to get a "guest" network running, and I really don't want to replace both routers. At the same time I prefer factory firmware = I like automated firmware updates fixing vulnerabilities without my babysitting the firmware.

It feels like I need to leave Asus (darn it), move to something with solid code (argh again), and use one of my leftover Asus routers as a downstream AP to the "whatever" router.

* Is that even possible?
* Does "Guest Network Pro" actually work? Could it be used with a non-pro router in an AIMesh? Traffic isolation from "production" is a must, as is having both guest and production over at least 2.4 and 5ghz being stable.
* Meanwhile, I've long wanted to implement Policy Based Routing so I could direct specific IP's over OpenVPN tunnels. Which Merlin does, and I'd always hoped Asus would "trickle down to" given that relationship. This remains non-vital, or I'd have already move to Merlin, but I wanted the automated updates more than policy routing.
* Is "Guest Network" otherwise stable? I suppose I could just not put up a production 2.4, as all my personal data devices are on 5ghs anyway...

So guys, who's making a stable router with quality code, the features I need, and delivering firmware updates automatically?
 
* Does "Guest Network Pro" actually work? Could it be used with a non-pro router in an AIMesh? Traffic isolation from "production" is a must, as is having both guest and production over at least 2.4 and 5ghz being stable.
There are some users (@visortgw as an example, possibly @Seth Harman ) who I believe have good working Asus Guest Network Pro (GNP) systems.

To get the most out of it, as you expect it to work, with GNs propagating to AiMesh nodes and VLANs likewise, is is imperative you get Router/Node models on “Asus VLAN List” of 3006 codebase GNP, VLAN supported routers that do just that. See Note 1 below.

If you do not care about VLAN propagating to the nodes Ethernet ports then 3006 GNP Primary and 3006 GNP Nodes on Asus GNP List may be sufficient. Note that many (most) on the GNP list also appear on the VLAN list.

There are quite a number of threads on the vagaries of Guest Network Pro with 3006.102.x Primary and 3004.388.x codebase nodes. From personal experience I strongly suggest you do not go that route. Here are some recent examples of that experience:



Finally, for completeness there are also routers that use something called Smart Home Master as explained by @bennor in the following thread. This is not what you want.


Note 1. A quick comparison between both lists I linked above suggests (currently):
  • Routers that do both GNP and VLAN: Many (most?) of the high-end and newer models (like the GT-BE, RT-AX88U Pro, RT-BE series) support both features.
  • GNP only: A few specific models like the GS-BE7200X and RT-BE58 Go, although the recently released RT-BE58 Go e.g., may just be an oversight as its predecessor the RT-AX57 Go is on the VLAN list too.
  • VLAN only: Primarily some specific business models (EB-series) and a couple of high-end gaming routers (GT-AX11000 Pro, GT-AXE16000). I am dubious about these missing from the GNP list TBH, might just be Asus failing to update properly, hopefully others can say “model X on the VLAN list actually supports GNP as well”.
And if you can use Ethernet to connect them, even if it needs some work pulling or threading or laying cables and ducts, do it.
 
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