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DarkKnight75

Senior Member
So a storm (probably lighting strike) took out my work laptop, AC86U, cable modem and monitor. All were connected to my APC backup with surge protection when the unit went off for 5 seconds, all was good. Then a minute later, my laptop went off like an M80 (ethernet was connected to the router). Needless to say, i jumped off my chair and hear the rings for quite some time.

So deciding on which router to buy and my bad luck with AX86U, i went back to a new AC86U (on sale for $139) on Merlin from my local MicroCenter. I passed the bill to my energy company, so will see how much i get back if any (My homeowners deductible was too high to claim)

All good for now....So whats going on with Asus Firmware releases..its being very quiet!!!
 

OzarkEdge

Part of the Furniture
So a storm (probably lighting strike) took out my work laptop, AC86U, cable modem and monitor. All were connected to my APC backup with surge protection when the unit went off for 5 seconds, all was good. Then a minute later, my laptop went off like an M80 (ethernet was connected to the router). Needless to say, i jumped off my chair and hear the rings for quite some time.

So deciding on which router to buy and my bad luck with AX86U, i went back to a new AC86U (on sale for $139) on Merlin from my local MicroCenter. I passed the bill to my energy company, so will see how much i get back if any (My homeowners deductible was too high to claim)

All good for now....So whats going on with Asus Firmware releases..its being very quiet!!!

Presumably all damaged equipment was plugged into the APC battery backup outlets.

Is the ISP coax cable to the building routed through a coax grounding block and grounded to the building power panel Earth ground?

Is the ISP coax cable routed through any surge protection such as coax in/out on an APC power strip or UPS?

OE
 

DarkKnight75

Senior Member
Presumably all damaged equipment was plugged into the APC battery backup outlets.

Is the ISP coax cable to the building routed through a coax grounding block and grounded to the building power panel Earth ground?

Is the ISP coax cable routed through any surge protection such as coax in/out on an APC power strip or UPS?

OE
Yeah all was plugged into my APC and yes the coax is grounded on a ceiling block in my basement. Well the coax cable is plugged into my modem which is pluged into my APC UPS unit if thats what you mean?
 

OzarkEdge

Part of the Furniture
Yeah all was plugged into my APC and yes the coax is grounded on a ceiling block in my basement. Well the coax cable is plugged into my modem which is pluged into my APC UPS unit if thats what you mean?

Sometimes there is coax (and Ethernet) protection on APC equipment. I route my coax through such terminals on my APC UPS. But I've never used the Ethernet protection because so far it has always been rated for 100Mbps while Gigabit Ethernet has been the norm for some time now.

It would be interesting to discover where your protection was breached... I tend to believe the UPS did its job (first 5 seconds) while the lightning disturbance found another way in.

OE
 

DarkKnight75

Senior Member
Sometimes there is coax (and Ethernet) protection on APC equipment. I route my coax through such terminals on my APC UPS. But I've never used the Ethernet protection because so far it has always been rated for 100Mbps while Gigabit Ethernet has been the norm for some time now.

It would be interesting to discover where your protection was breached... I tend to believe the UPS did its job (first 5 seconds) while the lightning disturbance found another way in.

OE
Yeah now i recall seeing those on some older APCs. For sure the lighting strike found another way somehow..
 

rlj2

Senior Member
So a storm (probably lighting strike) took out my work laptop, AC86U, cable modem and monitor. All were connected to my APC backup with surge protection when the unit went off for 5 seconds, all was good. Then a minute later, my laptop went off like an M80 (ethernet was connected to the router). Needless to say, i jumped off my chair and hear the rings for quite some time.

So deciding on which router to buy and my bad luck with AX86U, i went back to a new AC86U (on sale for $139) on Merlin from my local MicroCenter. I passed the bill to my energy company, so will see how much i get back if any (My homeowners deductible was too high to claim)

All good for now....So whats going on with Asus Firmware releases..its being very quiet!!!
sounds like a insurance claim, but electric coop doesnt cover lightning here, didnt think any did. Thats all homeowners insurance
 

Justinh

Regular Contributor
To address the firmware question... That unit is getting a bit old, isn't it? Be grateful ASUS dropped a release just a couple months ago.
 

DarkKnight75

Senior Member
sounds like a insurance claim, but electric coop doesnt cover lightning here, didnt think any did. Thats all homeowners insurance
I called my insurance 1st and my deductible is higher than the amount i would have claimed.. I then submitted claim to my energy company with pics/receipts of new gear...they wont cover full amount and my guess is a fraction of what i claimed or a pro rated rate based on depreciation of equipment.
 

anotherengineer

Regular Contributor
To address the firmware question... That unit is getting a bit old, isn't it? Be grateful ASUS dropped a release just a couple months ago.
Mt ac68u is upset at this comment ;)
 

tallytr

Senior Member
just my humble opinion. AX86U is soooo much better....
 

Tech9

Part of the Furniture
So whats going on with Asus Firmware releases..its being very quiet!!!

The last AC86U firmware was released like 10 weeks ago. What do you expect?
 

Threska49

Regular Contributor
Presumably all damaged equipment was plugged into the APC battery backup outlets.

Is the ISP coax cable to the building routed through a coax grounding block and grounded to the building power panel Earth ground?

Is the ISP coax cable routed through any surge protection such as coax in/out on an APC power strip or UPS?

OE
Seems to be the thought those coax ports cause problems.

 

Tech9

Part of the Furniture
Nothing stops few million volts. I had blown equipment through surge protectors few times already. They only give hope.
 

Threska49

Regular Contributor
Nothing stops few million volts. I had blown equipment through surge protectors few times already. They only give hope.

Right. My point is they'll degrade one's signal, or cause other problems.
 

OzarkEdge

Part of the Furniture
Nothing stops few million volts. I had blown equipment through surge protectors few times already. They only give hope.

This we know. The OP only lost a few boxes and none of his protection circuits... not the back of his house.

OE
 

OzarkEdge

Part of the Furniture
Seems to be the thought those coax ports cause problems.


Very possible, especially with simple/cheap protection equipment. But with no more than 200Mbps Internet service only, I've never noticed any issues, so I've used them... anything to route that millions of volts strike away from the inhabitants.

I think proper/secure building ground(s) and safety shunts to Earth are a minimum requirement, imo... worth the trouble to confirm when you first move in.

OE
 

Oracle

Regular Contributor
I used to have problems with blown equipment every 2-3 years and the surge more often than not came through coax. About 5 years ago moved to fiber and that source of trouble is gone. Also service improved with the optic infra - speed went up for the same price and it's been more stable.

All sensitive electronics at home and my parents' place is plugged via surge protectors but they are not 100% fail-safe - last time a TV set went off.

I live in an area with heavy thunderstorms. Sometimes several hundred strikes per night, esp. June-July.
 

coxhaus

Part of the Furniture
I added a 6 foot copper outside ground rod to my primary breaker box years ago. I had lightening take out a tree across the street and I did not lose any equipment.
 

OzarkEdge

Part of the Furniture
I used to have problems with blown equipment every 2-3 years and the surge more often than not came through coax. About 5 years ago moved to fiber and that source of trouble is gone.

Definitely a fiber advantage. Service coax is buried around here so that might help some... until they show up to replace a segment. :)

OE
 

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