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TheRiek

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Recently moved to a new sub-division in The Villages, FL. Spectrum installed a coax feed of internet/phone to their Arris TG1682 wireless modem. Running a Hulu trial for streaming Live TV currently.

For a few years previous, had been using Actiontec MOCA 1.1 adapters in conjunction with the Verizon/Frontier MOCA modem to successfully distribute internet to several rooms. The Arris spec sheet confirmed that the TG1682 was MOCA 2.0 compliant. So I connected the modem and 2 adapters through a MOCA-rated splitter at the point-of-entry. The adapters could see each other as evidenced by the " Coax " LED being illuminated on each adapter. However, the " MOCA " LED was not lit on the Arris router.

Went into the router web page and found a MOCA setup page, with a check-box where you could enable the MOCA function. It was grayed out and could not be selected. A call to Spectrum Tech Support confirmed that they could not enable the function and that Spectrum was not supporting it, at least in my area. A Spectrum tech posted that they had big problems with MOCA back-feeding to other customers, which contributed to the corporate decision to not support MOCA. For MOCA, you need a POE filter as well as properly-designed bandpass filters at each node at a minimum.

Several websites discussed the bandwidth overlap between MOCA 2.0 and DOCSIS 3.1 which Spectrum is using here. Another site discussed possible solutions which cable operators could use to avoid interference between them, but it would add complexity to their systems.

The local reality is that home builders continue to install coax by default in new construction, not CAT6 network cable. CenturyLink has installed fiber drops to our houses, but they are only providing 10 Mb / sec download speeds and pair it with satellite TV, which doesn't support MOCA either. How could a system like Tivo work without MOCA support ? For that matter, how could Spectrum-provided set-top boxes in other rooms connect without MOCA, or will the home-owner be forced to have network cabling installed to other rooms ?

Could DOCSIS 3 eventually spell the end for MOCA ?? The new FCC political balance suggests that the Commission has even less concern for consumer issues than before, as demonstrated by their indifference during the controversy over CableCards and DRM, as well as the recent Net Neutrality repeal. They wouldn't stop the operators from phasing out MOCA support even if they could.
 
Could DOCSIS 3 eventually spell the end for MOCA ?? The new FCC political balance suggests that the Commission has even less concern for consumer issues than before, as demonstrated by their indifference during the controversy over CableCards and DRM, as well as the recent Net Neutrality repeal. They wouldn't stop the operators from phasing out MOCA support even if they could.

Don't really want to get into the FCC politics...

For the Carrier Provided CPE - it's really down to what they want to support - some do, some don't - in some ways, not supporting MOCA on the CPE directly opens the door to do it oneself.

Here at the house - I'm in basically a no-MOCA environment, as I have both DOCSIS and DirecTV, so MOCA has nowhere to go...
 

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