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Looking for Access Point That I can Put on Closets

ChaoscripT

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Hi,
Currently I have Aruba AP22 that I put on tv closet below the TV, now I know that to get the best from the access point it's prefer to put it on wall or ceiling (opposite direction) which currently I don't have this option.
So I'm looking for some access point that not need monthly/yearly payment for license or something like that that I can put on the closet in "regular" position.
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i have my WAP571 in the living room actually in the wooden cabinet with a stone top below the TV together with a 5 port POE powered Netgear switch for both the TV and the AP as i like my TV to have a wired connection for streaming and i like things to be crisp, no wires etc. Never bothered me and works perfectly fine.
 
Hi,
Currently I have Aruba AP22 that I put on tv closet below the TV, now I know that to get the best from the access point it's prefer to put it on wall or ceiling (opposite direction) which currently I don't have this option.
So I'm looking for some access point that not need monthly/yearly payment for license or something like that that I can put on the closet in "regular" position.
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A zillion options including wifi routers that you can put on a table top. Obstructions of the wifi signal is an obstruction and mounting it to a wall or a ceiling doesn't always solve it either.
 
A zillion options including wifi routers that you can put on a table top. Obstructions of the wifi signal is an obstruction and mounting it to a wall or a ceiling doesn't always solve it either.

Don't interested in routers as I already have one.
 
Don't interested in routers as I already have one.
That doesn't matter because routers can be used for either since that is just a mode setting. So you just not limited to something labeled "access point". I use a router at an access point in an area on purpose so I have a few extra hardwired ports without having a switch.

But it all depends on your application. Does it need to be an outdoor one, or something put in the closet or attic or something sitting somewhere on a shelf? How many wifi devices it needs to handle?

But since you said you want one for the counter top, its going to be price to what kind of connectivity, (wifi type and what speed the LAN connection is).

If you are renting/leasing the HP/Aruba AP and like it, you can always buy one for around $190.
 
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That doesn't matter because routers can be used for either since that is just a mode setting. So you just not limited to something labeled "access point". I use a router at an access point in an area on purpose so I have a few extra hardwired ports without having a switch.

But it all depends on your application. Does it need to be an outdoor one, or something put in the closet or attic or something sitting somewhere on a shelf? How many wifi devices it needs to handle?

It's needs to be on the shelf/closet (like the image that I attached), now here are some limitions,
1. needs to be white color
2. prefer to get a machine with internal antennas

It's need to handle something like ~20 wifi devices.
 
It's needs to be on the shelf/closet (like the image that I attached), now here are some limitions,
1. needs to be white color
2. prefer to get a machine with internal antennas

It's need to handle something like ~20 wifi devices.
then its all about how much you want to pay for it.

The least expensive would be something like this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D1Y9Q9K9?tag=snbforums-20
KuWIFI wifi6 AX3000 for $70.

Most expensive would be Cisco Catalyst 9120AXI-B for $570
 
You could look at a Cisco 150AX. White, standalone w/o subscriptions and price/quality very good.
 
Currently I have Aruba AP22 that I put on tv closet below the TV, now I know that to get the best from the access point it's prefer to put it on wall or ceiling (opposite direction) which currently I don't have this option.

Most ceiling mount APs will work just fine the way yours is placed. Most business series APs are white.

Is there a problem with yours? Other vendor similar specs APs placed in the same location will give you similar results.

I'm using Ubiquiti U6 Mesh APs (have 6x units already, Mesh is just the name, it's a PoE powered normal AP with U6 Pro hardware inside) and they can be placed anywhere, omnidirectional 3dBi (2.4GHz) and 5dBi (5GHz) antennas. Come with desktop stand, wall or pole mount, ceiling mount as an option sold separately. Due to IPX5 outdoor application specs run hot though and perhaps not a very good idea to place one inside a cabinet with no air circulation. Otherwise - excellent in range and performance. Around $180 a piece, 15W PoE injector is included.

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then its all about how much you want to pay for it.

The least expensive would be something like this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D1Y9Q9K9?tag=snbforums-20
KuWIFI wifi6 AX3000 for $70.

Most expensive would be Cisco Catalyst 9120AXI-B for $570

I already have Aruba AP22, but the aruba and also the APs that you gave, in their technical sheet not wrote that I can put them "regular" only on ceiling or wall.

You could look at a Cisco 150AX. White, standalone w/o subscriptions and price/quality very good.

Thanks for that, yeah I put my eye on it, but also they need to be on ceiling or wall.

The only AP that I saw that I can put on table is the UniFi U6 Mesh
 
Most ceiling mount APs will work just fine the way yours is placed. Most business series APs are white.

Is there a problem with yours? Other vendor similar specs APs placed in the same location will give you similar results.

I'm using Ubiquiti U6 Mesh APs (have 6x units already, Mesh is just the name, it's a PoE powered normal AP with U6 Pro hardware inside) and they can be placed anywhere, omnidirectional 3dBi (2.4GHz) and 5dBi (5GHz) antennas. Come with desktop stand, wall or pole mount, ceiling mount as an option sold separately. Due to IPX5 outdoor application specs run hot though and perhaps not a very good idea to place one inside a cabinet with no air circulation. Otherwise - excellent in range and performance. Around $180 a piece, 15W PoE injector is included.

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As I wrote in my last reply, I saw only this AP that I can put on table.
As you wrote, most of the APs are need to be on ceiling or wall.

I have Switch PoE+, so I will use it instead of the injector.
Tell me please, if I don't have eco-system of Unifi, how I can control on this Mesh? via Web GUI?
I know if I put it on the desktop, it will transmit right and left right? what about up direction, also transmit?
Another thing, in the image that I've attached in first post, you can see it's on open air, there it will stay, below the TV, it's good position?
 
Tell me please, if I don't have eco-system of Unifi, how I can control on this Mesh?

It can be configured as stand-alone AP:

Keep in mind because of IPX rating and very small physical size U6 Mesh will run >50C. As per Ubiquiti - normal operation in -30 to 60° C (-22 to 140° F) environment. Some users measured 60C on the case with no much air circulation around. The AP works as expected though.
 
As you wrote, most of the APs are need to be on ceiling or wall.

I didn't write this. Read again post #9 above.

Oh, if I make them stand alone, and I will have more then 1, Seamless and quick roaming not works.

Roaming is a client decision. You lose roaming assist technologies without network controller. Most multi-AP systems require the controller for better roaming. Some even track the clients movement around and can dynamically adjust the AP power to encourage roaming. You can't have this with stand-alone APs, obviously. Just the way it works and not Ubiquiti UniFi specific. The clients will still roam based on RSSI levels, just not as good.
 
As I wrote in my last reply, I saw only this AP that I can put on table.
As you wrote, most of the APs are need to be on ceiling or wall.

I have Switch PoE+, so I will use it instead of the injector.
Tell me please, if I don't have eco-system of Unifi, how I can control on this Mesh? via Web GUI?
I know if I put it on the desktop, it will transmit right and left right? what about up direction, also transmit?
Another thing, in the image that I've attached in first post, you can see it's on open air, there it will stay, below the TV, it's good position?
i have one of my cisco 371 APs "ceiling" mounted under a shelf in my wall cabinet. Rather than physically attach with screws, i ran a pair of string loops, parallel to each other, front to back around the shelf. Slid the AP into the " hanger" loops. Been that way for about 5 years. No issues.
 
I believe what @ChaoscripT wants to do is just not necessary. Many home users have the APs placed in non-ideal locations.
 
I didn't write this. Read again post #9 above.



Roaming is a client decision. You lose roaming assist technologies without network controller. Most multi-AP systems require the controller for better roaming. Some even track the clients movement around and can dynamically adjust the AP power to encourage roaming. You can't have this with stand-alone APs, obviously. Just the way it works and not Ubiquiti UniFi specific. The clients will still roam based on RSSI levels, just not as good.

What I mean is, correct me if I wrong, if now I connect few Aruba AP22 (for example) to PoE switch or other electric source, the roaming between them will works no? even without Aruba switch.

i have one of my cisco 371 APs "ceiling" mounted under a shelf in my wall cabinet. Rather than physically attach with screws, i ran a pair of string loops, parallel to each other, front to back around the shelf. Slid the AP into the " hanger" loops. Been that way for about 5 years. No issues.

The cabinet that I have is very close to floor, if I put the access point on the down with the face to the floor, it will be very close to floor, I don't know if it will give me maximize results from the access point.

According to WIFI Analyzer windows software, my 5 Ghz network have -57 dBm, and my 2.4 Ghz network have -54 dBm.
In the position that I've attached the image in my first post.
 
even without Aruba switch.

The roaming will work even between different brand stand-alone APs, but without roaming assist technologies offered by network controllers. As I said the client decides where to connect and the decision to switch APs is based on specific criteria. All you can do on a stand-alone AP is set minimum RSSI level and the AP will attempt to disconnect the client below the threshold.

my 5 Ghz network have -57 dBm, and my 2.4 Ghz network have -54 dBm.

What are you trying to improve then? This is a very good signal. At least to where the PC is located.
 
Roaming is a client decision. You lose roaming assist technologies without network controller. Most multi-AP systems require the controller for better roaming. Some even track the clients movement around and can dynamically adjust the AP power to encourage roaming. You can't have this with stand-alone APs, obviously. Just the way it works and not Ubiquiti UniFi specific. The clients will still roam based on RSSI levels, just not as good.
This is not entirely correct. My WAP571's are stand-alone and all connected directly to a POE+ switch but they do talk to each other and allow central management through one AP that you configure as master. They don't require a controller or a cloud solution or a subscription and it still works perfectly fine. Same for the 150AX AP's.
 
Because your APs have built-in controller, the same for 150AX model.
 

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