No vendor information for my RT-N66U inSSIDer3

[cdysthe]

Hi,

I was pointed to inSSIDer3 by the good people in these forums and have been using it quite a bit. One thing I have noticed is that there's no vendor information for my RT-N66U. I see 'Belkin', 'Netgear' and '2Wire' but my router has a blank vendor field. Is this intentional? I am running the latest Merlin in case that is relevant.

 

[sm00thpapa]

I'm using inSSIDer and I see my vendor information. Why do you need to see it anyway? No biggie just names the make of the router.

 

[cdysthe]

I'm using inSSIDer and I see my vendor information. Why do you need to see it anyway? No biggie just names the make of the router.

I am curious and interested in why it's not showing. I also find it interesting to see what people in my neighborhood are using.

Are you using Merlin or stock firmware?

 

[PrivateJoker]

I'm not sure how InSSIDer does it, but many sniffers & LAN scanners I've used will compare a device or AP's MAC against a database, the first 3 pairs in a MAC address are a vendor's IEEE registration. Some utilities query these on the fly from online sources, some contain a local database. So either the utility isn't using the most up to date MAC vendor index or potentially a vendor could have a registration problem on a certain set of MACs.

At least in MW build of Asus f/w, clicking on a device in the client list does an internet query on its MAC.

This is using ios inet scan, it probably queries all my MACs online and quickly identifies them, including my N66.

 

[sm00thpapa]

Merlin or Stock I see it. Just reboot your router and see what happens.

 

[PrivateJoker]

Merlin or Stock I see it. Just reboot your router and see what happens.

Perhaps compare InSSider versions & h/w you're running it on. Different platforms or versions could query things differently.

Or maybe @cdysthe you did a MAC change in router to match a modem at one point? Some ISPs need that in order to work and it would throw anything that scans MACs for a loop.

 

[sm00thpapa]

inSSIDer3 running on windows 7

 

[RMerlin]

It's most certainly retrieved from the OUI database. It's possible that Asus got new OUI entries for recent batches, and the database InSSIDer is using isn't fully up-to-date (or, you have modified the MACs for non-standard ones).

 

[cdysthe]

It's most certainly retrieved from the OUI database. It's possible that Asus got new OUI entries for recent batches, and the database InSSIDer is using isn't fully up-to-date (or, you have modified the MACs for non-standard ones).

Thank you for that clarification. I have not modified anything in this regard, so if what you say is the case it could potentially show up when the database is updated? It's no biggie, but interesting to know how this works.

 

[PrivateJoker]

Thank you for that clarification. I have not modified anything in this regard, so if what you say is the case it could potentially show up when the database is updated? It's no biggie, but interesting to know how this works.

Download more of a LAN scanning utility on your android and play around (vs InSSider which is kind of a wifi diagnostic/survey tool?) I think Fing is for android, there have got to be some free or cheap decent ones. They can be really handy and might use a different method of IDing you gear, if you feel like checking another way.

This isn't super relevant to this thread but I was talking about seeing devices behind media bridges in another thread and posted a comparison of Fing & iNet scan for ios. This is just a little bit of what they can do.

 

[jlake]

Thank you for that clarification. I have not modified anything in this regard, so if what you say is the case it could potentially show up when the database is updated? It's no biggie, but interesting to know how this works.

I think it's just a small bug with inSSIDer. With the old inssider program for windows xp, sometimes it wouldn't show my linksys router manufacturer info and sometimes it would. I think you just need to reboot your computer and/or close inSSIDer and try again.

 

[cdysthe]

I'm not sure how InSSIDer does it, but many sniffers & LAN scanners I've used will compare a device or AP's MAC against a database, the first 3 pairs in a MAC address are a vendor's IEEE registration. Some utilities query these on the fly from online sources, some contain a local database. So either the utility isn't using the most up to date MAC vendor index or potentially a vendor could have a registration problem on a certain set of MACs.

At least in MW build of Asus f/w, clicking on a device in the client list does an internet query on its MAC.

Thank you for all that information. I now tried with an advanced network scanner for Android called WiFiInspect. For my own network I get:

Hostname: router.asus.com
MAC address: AC:22:0B3:24:40
Vendor: Unknown

Same MAC address as inSSIDer3 gets.

I also went here:

http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/

I get unknown there also, so it looks like inSSIDer3 works as it should. I have also rebooted and restarted my whole network. Same result.

 

[PrivateJoker]

Hostname: router.asus.com
MAC address: AC:22:0B3:24:40
Vendor: Unknown

Same MAC address as inSSIDer3 gets.

Weird, it's not in IEEE either, but I can google just the first part "aa:22:0b" and I get multiple returns that identify it as Asus.

Could just be an odd block that maybe Asus was assigned but still in the process of registering or something.

Nothing to worry about, try again in a month or something, it should eventually show up.

http://standards.ieee.org/develop/regauth/oui/public.html