Perfect antenna placement.

[W4RH34D]

I was ready to go off on Asus for the wireless being so intermittent but I decided to think that their stuff is good and surely I need to dig a little deeper.

Anyway, I realized we were knocking the antennas around all the time.

Here is the arrangement that works best for us.

 

[sfx2000]

Are you on a single story building?

If so - the ideal solution would be like this -- " | | | | " if the clients are 11ac/11n - goes to the path thing, but sometimes the " \ | | / " can work, as this can generate some multipath, which MIMO is ok with and actually prefers...

But each case is different - try both and see what works best..

 

[W4RH34D]

Are you on a single story building?

If so - the ideal solution would be like this -- " | | | | " if the clients are 11ac/11n - goes to the path thing, but sometimes the " \ | | / " can work, as this can generate some multipath, which MIMO is ok with and actually prefers...

But each case is different - try both and see what works best..

2 stories. It's on the first which I know is not ideal but luckily it reaches the area this one serves. We are running mu-mimo on it now as well.

I forgot how important antennae placement is.

 

[sfx2000]

2 stories. It's on the first which I know is not ideal but luckily it reaches the area this one serves. We are running mu-mimo on it now as well.

As long as it works - every WLAN is different in some way... in a single floor situation, give all the same orientation - and then go from there...

 

[sfx2000]

We are running mu-mimo on it now as well.

How do you know it's actually doing MU-MIMO?

This is an ongoing issue with current network tools - one can infer, but this is wireshark, and a specific set of knowledge - there's a couple of enterprise grade AP's at the moment that can collect logs, and Asus isn't on that list of AP's that can do this level of data collection.

 

[W4RH34D]

As long as it works - every WLAN is different in some way... in a single floor situation, give all the same orientation - and then go from there...

Oh I spent about 3 hours troubleshooting this. Decided to leave this as a post it note and reminder for folks. I completely forgot to check the antennas, lol.

 

[TonyH]

2 stories. It's on the first which I know is not ideal but luckily it reaches the area this one serves. We are running mu-mimo on it now as well.

I forgot how important antennae placement is.

Antenna orientation as well as location of router in your house. My house is 2 story, router is sitting in a loft upstairs.

 

[W4RH34D]

How do you know it's actually doing MU-MIMO?

This is an ongoing issue with current network tools - one can infer, but this is wireshark, and a specific set of knowledge - there's a couple of enterprise grade AP's at the moment that can collect logs, and Asus isn't on that list of AP's that can do this level of data collection.

 

[sfx2000]

Test and adjust - start here " | | | | " and go from there - simple enough

 

[sfx2000]

@W4RH34D - just because it's enabled, doesn't mean it's in use...

Nice to see a capable router/ap though...

 

[W4RH34D]

@W4RH34D - just because it's enabled, doesn't mean it's in use...

Nice to see a capable router/ap though...

Yeah I don't have the software to check that sort of thing. It would be a great article to read about though. The 87u was the one that had the "future" promises with it.

 

[sfx2000]

The 87u was the one that had the "future" promises with it.

That horse is well beat and declared dead in so very many ways...

 

[W4RH34D]

That horse is well beat and declared dead in so very many ways...

I thought so too until this latest firmware. Kinda curious if anyone else has tried this wave2. I know iphones etc aren't wave 2 but I've read the protocol is just better all the way around.

 

[sfx2000]

've read the protocol is just better all the way around

Newer is not necessarily better...

 

[W4RH34D]

Newer is not necessarily better...

Exactly, I would love to see an article. *nudge* *nudge* *wink* *wink*

 

[thiggins]

MU-MIMO only helps if you have two or more MU-MIMO devices. It will help most if both devices are fairly close to the router. It won't help much or at all if devices are far away.

A quick way to check would be to run a speed check to each device, one at a time with MU-MIMO enabled. Then run the speed check to BOTH devices simultaneously. If MU-MIMO is working, you should see higher throughput from the simultaneous device test than either of the single device tests. For a quicker check, run the simultaneous device with MU-MIMO enabled, then disabled.

 

[W4RH34D]

MU-MIMO only helps if you have two or more MU-MIMO devices. It will help most if both devices are fairly close to the router. It won't help much or at all if devices are far away.

A quick way to check would be to run a speed check to each device, one at a time with MU-MIMO enabled. Then run the speed check to BOTH devices simultaneously. If MU-MIMO is working, you should see higher throughput from the simultaneous device test than either of the single device tests. For a quicker check, run the simultaneous device with MU-MIMO enabled, then disabled.

I have no mu-mimo client devices.

 

[sm00thpapa]

How can you tell if a device has MU-MIMO? I see a blue light on my EA9500 but have no clue which device is using MU-MIMO.

 

[RMerlin]

How can you tell if a device has MU-MIMO? I see a blue light on my EA9500 but have no clue which device is using MU-MIMO.

You can't, unless your router specifically reports it. Asus does on their Broadcom models (but not on the Quantenna one). With stock firmware, there's a column for it (if I remember). With my firmware, it will look like this (look for the "M" flag):

 

[sm00thpapa]

You can't, unless your router specifically reports it. Asus does on their Broadcom models (but not on the Quantenna one). With stock firmware, there's a column for it (if I remember). With my firmware, it will look like this (look for the "M" flag):

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I switched to the AC88U. Where can I check in the GUI? I may have to switch to your firmware to check.