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Hey! I currently have an Asus N66U running 3.0.0.4.376_3861 (I have not checked out John's fork). Generally speaking, it works very well. Most of my devices are hard wired via TP-Link Gigabit switches, but I have a few new devices that are wireless. Here are my devices:

Wireless:
iPhone 6s (ac w/mimo)
iPad Mini 4 (ac)
Google Chromebook Pixel (v1, wireless N)
iPad Air v1
Kindle paperwhite (rarely used)
A few Nexus tablets (rarely used, don't ask :)

Wired:
Macbook Pro Retina 2015
DIY Desktop
Roku 3
Apple TV gen 2
Bluray
Epson printer
Synology 411+II NAS
OOMA Telo

Uses:
I have a VERY small apartment in a building with 15 other apartments (next to lots of other buildings). Also, I try to only use wifi when I have to, and keep the Tx power to a minimum (I'm trying to minimize RF as I can for reasons I won't go into :)

I mostly use my devices for web browsing, with some video streaming from the iPhone/iPad to the Apple TV, and some streaming from the NAS. I also do some file transfers around the network, and some printing. But we're not talking about major networking here.

I don't care all that much about price or future proofing right now - I just want something that's stable and that I don't have to worry about. Currently, I use basic port forwarding, static IPs for my devices + DHCP for extra, 1 guest network, on/off scheduling, and only the 5 gHz band.

Current speeds:
TWC Extreme 300
Netgear CM500 DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem
Speedtest.net:
- on MBP wired: ping-10ms, download 250-350Mbps, upload 20-23Mbps
- on iPhone 6s wifi: ping118ms, download 15-60Mbps, upload 10-15Mbps (depending on location). Should I be getting better download speeds on wifi with the N66U?

Options:
I've read the reviews/charts on SNB, Amazon, Newegg, and other sites.
Option 1: just keep the N66U, as it's a great router and works just fine.
Option 2: upgrade to the AC66U or AC68U or P (I know some folks on here would say go with the AC66 and some would say AC68)
Option 3: Arhcer C7/9, Netgear R6400/7000 (though I like the features of the Asus f/w without having to use dd-wrt)
Option 4: ???

Thanks so much for reading and for any thoughts.
 
Sounds like you are getting along just fine with the N66U...why spend the money without a compelling reason to do so?
 
Hey! I currently have an Asus N66U running 3.0.0.4.376_3861 (I have not checked out John's fork). Generally speaking, it works very well. Most of my devices are hard wired via TP-Link Gigabit switches, but I have a few new devices that are wireless. Here are my devices:

Wireless:
iPhone 6s (ac w/mimo)
iPad Mini 4 (ac)
Google Chromebook Pixel (v1, wireless N)
iPad Air v1
Kindle paperwhite (rarely used)
A few Nexus tablets (rarely used, don't ask :)

Wired:
Macbook Pro Retina 2015
DIY Desktop
Roku 3
Apple TV gen 2
Bluray
Epson printer
Synology 411+II NAS
OOMA Telo

Uses:
I have a VERY small apartment in a building with 15 other apartments (next to lots of other buildings). Also, I try to only use wifi when I have to, and keep the Tx power to a minimum (I'm trying to minimize RF as I can for reasons I won't go into :)

I mostly use my devices for web browsing, with some video streaming from the iPhone/iPad to the Apple TV, and some streaming from the NAS. I also do some file transfers around the network, and some printing. But we're not talking about major networking here.

I don't care all that much about price or future proofing right now - I just want something that's stable and that I don't have to worry about. Currently, I use basic port forwarding, static IPs for my devices + DHCP for extra, 1 guest network, on/off scheduling, and only the 5 gHz band.

Current speeds:
TWC Extreme 300
Netgear CM500 DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem
Speedtest.net:
- on MBP wired: ping-10ms, download 250-350Mbps, upload 20-23Mbps
- on iPhone 6s wifi: ping118ms, download 15-60Mbps, upload 10-15Mbps (depending on location). Should I be getting better download speeds on wifi with the N66U?

Options:
I've read the reviews/charts on SNB, Amazon, Newegg, and other sites.
Option 1: just keep the N66U, as it's a great router and works just fine.
Option 2: upgrade to the AC66U or AC68U or P (I know some folks on here would say go with the AC66 and some would say AC68)
Option 3: Arhcer C7/9, Netgear R6400/7000 (though I like the features of the Asus f/w without having to use dd-wrt)
Option 4: ???

Thanks so much for reading and for any thoughts.

Just like you said yourself. Keeping the N66 as long as it fits your needs, is working, and is supported with FW updates sounds like the thing to do. Something to consider is the routers Asus will be putting out over the 2016 and later years. Keep an eye on those and make a decision later. I plan to do the same.
 
It's a good question. Is there a compelling reason to upgrade? Does a better CPU = a noticeable increase in wired performance? Would wireless speeds significantly increase? (Range is not an issue)
 
Your internet service is 300Mbit download? I would upgrade, because the N66U will barely be able to reach ~260Mbit wireless. Though, I am a bit obsessed with getting every bit of bandwidth I have paid for.

The RT-AC68U or RT-AC68P would be my choice. 802.11ac is quite a bit faster (~2x-3x) than 802.11n and AC will apparently supply faster speeds to N devices. The increased LAN to LAN speeds can also be very useful if you use local NAS for backups or locally stream media with something like Plex.
 
Your internet service is 300Mbit download? I would upgrade, because the N66U will barely be able to reach ~260Mbit wireless. Though, I am a bit obsessed with getting every bit of bandwidth I have paid for.

The RT-AC68U or RT-AC68P would be my choice. 802.11ac is quite a bit faster (~2x-3x) than 802.11n and AC will apparently supply faster speeds to N devices. The increased LAN to LAN speeds can also be very useful if you use local NAS for backups or locally stream media with something like Plex.
Mixing apples and oranges?
ISP speed is in net yield at IP layer. Residential ISP download speed is most often 6 to 50Mbits/sec in No. America. Cable modem ISP service needed, usually, for more than 6Mbps.
WiFi indicated connection speed is in raw 802.11 burst rate speed. Convert this to net IP layer yield by multiplying by 60% as a rule of thumb. That's best case- absent any competition with neighbors with busy WiFi within 3 channels of yours (2.4GHz).
 
Mixing apples and oranges?
ISP speed is in net yield at IP layer. Residential ISP download speed is most often 6 to 50Mbits/sec in No. America. Cable modem ISP service needed, usually, for more than 6Mbps.
WiFi indicated connection speed is in raw 802.11 burst rate speed. Convert this to net IP layer yield by multiplying by 60% as a rule of thumb. That's best case- absent any competition with neighbors with busy WiFi within 3 channels of yours (2.4GHz).

You lost me.

OP said he has "TWC 300 Extreme" which I assume means he has 300Mbit connection, and his Speedtest results were sometimes over 300Mbit. Personally, I have a "12Mbit" connection but the ISP supplies me with 14975Kbit (ATM line-rate) which yields me 12.5Mbit goodput. ISPs sometimes over-allocate customers beyond the advertised rate.

The fastest reported wireless speed I have read about with a RT-N66U was ~260 or ~270 Mbit. Personally, the fastest I have achieved was ~200Mbit. These are "real-world" results, and none of them equal or surpass the ~300Mbit I assume he is allocated by his ISP. Hence my stance that bandwidth is being unused/wasted.

Hopefully this clarifies my post.

(Unless you have good reason to criticize this post, let's try to avoid an ego-fueled back-and-forth, off-topic argument.)
 
Thanks Nullity - that's correct. I have a plan from my ISP that provides ~ 300Mbit connection, which I can achieve via my laptop wired directly to the N66U, as measured by Speedtest.net (I can sometimes get higher than that, as ISPs are strange :) I have NOT measured throughput of my internal network.

For some reason, I can only get a max of 60Mbit as measured by Speedtest.net with my iPhone 6s, but I would imagine that would improve with an A/C router.
 
You stated that you have turned down the RF. Did you consider that is the reason your WIFI throughput is low? My N66R has been up for 90 days as of today on the latest Merlin firmware with no issues at all! I do not plan to upgrade it until the electrons wear it out. At any given time there are a couple of iPods, an Android Tablet, a printer, a camera, and three laptops connected to the WIFI as well as three desktops, a Linux server and a NAS
 
Thanks Nullity - that's correct. I have a plan from my ISP that provides ~ 300Mbit connection, which I can achieve via my laptop wired directly to the N66U, as measured by Speedtest.net (I can sometimes get higher than that, as ISPs are strange :) I have NOT measured throughput of my internal network.

For some reason, I can only get a max of 60Mbit as measured by Speedtest.net with my iPhone 6s, but I would imagine that would improve with an A/C router.

Yes, we have an ISP connection that goes up to about 180Mbps. With our wireless-AC router, I get up to about 175Mbps on 5GHz. on both my iPhone 6 and iPad Air 2.

I think that the iPad Air 2 goes up to about 866Mbps, and the iPhone 6 goes up to about 433Mbps max. You could get up to about 866Mbps on 5GHz. with your iPhone 6s, if you could get that many bits to it per second *smile*.
 

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