BE88U on 3006.102.4 - Enable QoS?

[Daveo]

Hi.

I have a BE88U router running 3006.102.4. Can I enable QoS, and if so, which one?

As Spotify occasionally slows playback (sounds like a record going too slow) when playing a game or downloading updates.

 

[dave14305]

Adaptive QoS doesn’t appear to work on BE routers right now, or doesn’t work the way it used to if Asus is changing it under the hood.

What are your ISP speeds? I’d only trust CAKE, but you would sacrifice hardware acceleration in order to use it, which is why your subscribed speed matters.

 

[ApexRon]

In my testing for my environment/requirements, I have found CAKE QoS to be the best as dave14305 stated. However, I concluded that there was no benefit in enabling any QoS in my environment.

Also, as dave14305 stated, it depends on ISP speed. But I would add that there is more dependencies on your ISP than just speed and the list can be long and varied.

Assume you enable QoS and were able to resolve Spotify issue. Something else may have suffered as a result; gaming runs slower perhaps. I look at QoS as a possible means to slowdown local bandwidth hog apps to make bandwidth more available to other apps.`

 

[Daveo]

Sorry for delayed reply. Got two family members in two different hospitals at the moment.

My up and down speeds are 900Mbps.

My ISP is Toob (I'm in the UK).

World of Warcraft reports latency is 9ms (home) & 10ms (world).

 

[dave14305]

My up and down speeds are 900Mbps.

CAKE won’t perform well without sacrificing bandwidth. Your best option is no QoS.

 

[ApexRon]

Sorry for delayed reply. Got two family members in two different hospitals at the moment.

My up and down speeds are 900Mbps.

My ISP is Toob (I'm in the UK).

World of Warcraft reports latency is 9ms (home) & 10ms (world).

I personally, would implement CAKE QoS on a trial basis to see the impact on everything in your network. Based on your up/down speeds and Spotify issue, I believe CAKE will resolve. Considering data demands of gaming compared to music, I don’t believe gaming will be impacted.

 

[Daveo]

OK. Do I select the CAKE option in the GUI or install the CAKE addon ?

Also, what's the recommended settings for CAKE ?

 

[ApexRon]

Dave14305 replied; “CAKE won’t perform well without sacrificing bandwidth. Your best option is no QoS.” And he is right.

I cannot speak to your specific router but on mine you just turn it on in the GUI, add a couple settings that are specific to your WAN connection, and you’re done. I wouldn’t do more than that, like installing CAKE addon.

 

[Bensam123]

Bumping this up here. I also have a BE88 and was trying to figure out why Adaptive QoS doesn't seem to work, looks like it's broken across the board.

I had been using CAKE, but wanted to try adaptive, which doesn't work. I noticed with CAKE it's only using 1 core and maxing it out? It really doesn't use the other three cores... or whatever it is when using bandwidth tests doesn't seem to be spread out over all cores. Is this intended behavior @RMerlin ?

 

[Ripshod]

Adaptive QoS is indeed broken for wifi7 routers. And as far as I'm aware cake can only utilise one cpu core.
There are rumours circulating that adaptive QoS may get replaced by something bigger and better - it's up to you whether you doubt or whether you get optomistic about this.

 

[Bensam123]

Why can't it work on multiple cores? Intrinsic to CAKE or just the implantation for Merlin? It seems like adaptive works across all cores.

It would explain why it's broken, but people like spreading hopium. Seems like bufferbloat is the next boogieman that needs to be nailed down perfectly.

 

[dave14305]

I noticed with CAKE it's only using 1 core and maxing it out?

CAKE is notoriously single-threaded. This is a design limitation everywhere CAKE is available .

 

[Bensam123]

Most definitely a limitation considering most low powered devices, such as routers, have a bunch of slower/efficient cores.

Also curiously does maxing out a core ruin CAKE performance? So you always aim for a bandwidth limit that doesn't cause you to get throttled by a single core?