Looking for a 10Gbps wired router

[Aqualung]

I have been looking at this: https://mikrotik.com/product/ccr2004_1g_12s_2xs#fndtn-specifications for a new wired router. Will this deliver better wired routing speeds than ASUS's GT-BE98 PRO? It's certainly older than the ASUS.

 

[Tech9]

I have a few Netgate 6100 appliances for business use. For home use you can build your own router/firewall cheaper. It can be much faster than all of the mentioned so far hardware. For true 10GbE processing better go with high clock x86 CPU and pfSense/OPNsense OS.

 

[Aqualung]

I have a few Netgate 6100 appliances for business use. For home use you can build your own router/firewall cheaper. It can be much faster than all of the mentioned so far hardware. For true 10GbE processing better go with high clock x86 CPU and pfSense/OPNsense OS.

Thanks, I have, indeed, been thinking about building my own router, though I am having trouble finding a barebone computer that is small enough to hang onto a wall where my present router resides. Recommendations welcome.

 

[degrub]

Amazon.com

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pfsense+pc&ref=nb_sb_noss&tag=snbforums-20

for just a few choices

 

[Tech9]

Recommendations welcome.

Perhaps nothing with 10GbE ports and true 10Gbps capable hardware inside will be small enough.

 

[Aqualung]

Perhaps nothing with 10GbE ports and true 10Gbps capable hardware inside will be small enough.

Yeah, that is, indeed, what I was afraid of. I might need to build an actual tower.

 

[Tech Junky]

Yeah, that is, indeed, what I was afraid of. I might need to build an actual tower.

There are M2/10ge adapters now that you can get and they're small where you just mount the port to the backside of the case.

 

[TheLostSwede]

How about

QHora-322 | Next-Generation three-port 10GbE SD-WAN Router, providing a secure networking experience for NAS and IoT environments

The QHora-322 enables high-speed connection with 3 x 10GbE and 6 x 2.5GbE ports, while also providing enterprise-grade Mesh VPN networking. You can achieve multi-site LAN development via the cloud through QuWAN Orchestrator, with full software-controlled routing to build a next-generation...

www.qnap.com

The older one is cheaper, but has WiFI.

QHora-301W | Hardware Specs

To embrace the new normal of remote working, businesses must deploy both a remote VPN that is quickly accessible by multi-location users, and a high-speed in-premises solution covering wired and wireless connections. The QHora-301W supports high-speed Wi-Fi 6 and 10GbE connections, while also...

www.qnap.com

 

[Aqualung]

How about

QHora-322 | Next-Generation three-port 10GbE SD-WAN Router, providing a secure networking experience for NAS and IoT environments

The QHora-322 enables high-speed connection with 3 x 10GbE and 6 x 2.5GbE ports, while also providing enterprise-grade Mesh VPN networking. You can achieve multi-site LAN development via the cloud through QuWAN Orchestrator, with full software-controlled routing to build a next-generation...

www.qnap.com

The older one is cheaper, but has WiFI.

QHora-301W | Hardware Specs

To embrace the new normal of remote working, businesses must deploy both a remote VPN that is quickly accessible by multi-location users, and a high-speed in-premises solution covering wired and wireless connections. The QHora-301W supports high-speed Wi-Fi 6 and 10GbE connections, while also...

www.qnap.com

Spec-wise, the 322 sounds AMAZING! EXACTLY what I have been looking for! Reviews on Amazon, however, are a downer. I will, nevertheless, order one asap, and test it.

Excellent find! Many thanks for the recommendation!!!

 

[TheLostSwede]

Spec-wise, the 322 sounds AMAZING! EXACTLY what I have been looking for! Reviews on Amazon, however, are a downer. I will, nevertheless, order one asap, and test it.

Excellent find! Many thanks for the recommendation!!!

Well, at least it's not a DIY piece of kit and it comes with support.

These guys did a "review" a year and a half ago.

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[Aqualung]

Well, at least it's not a DIY piece of kit and it comes with support.

These guys did a "review" a year and a half ago.

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Thanks, I saw that review. It's more of an unboxing and a parade of specs rather than an actual "put it through its paces" kind of thing. I would have loved to see a few benchmarks, to see if it indeed delivers on the promised 10Gbps throughput (or something close). Anyway I have already ordered one. Will keep you posted. I am currently looking closely at the EAP783 for an access point to accompany the 322, and let me know if you have any thoughts about that.

Thanks again!

 

[degrub]

ServeTheHome Server Storage and Networking Reviews

ServeTheHome, founded in 2009, is the place to learn more about servers, storage, and networking gear

www.servethehome.com

in case you haven't seen this site.

 

[Wolfclaw]

well I finally replaced my AX86U and got on Ebay a Dell Precision T3240 8core Xeon 64GB ram, 256GBnvme for £87. Stuck in a dual 2.5GbE card £20, thats my Proxmox+Opensense+piHole router, old router is an AP. Can't grumble for £100 !

 

[TheLostSwede]

well I finally replaced my AX86U and got on Ebay a Dell Precision T3240 8core Xeon 64GB ram, 256GBnvme for £87. Stuck in a dual 2.5GbE card £20, thats my Proxmox+Opensense+piHole router, old router is an AP. Can't grumble for £100 !

That also uses 200 W of power, if not more, whereas an Arm based router is sub 50 W and more like 20 W or less.
It's also not 10 Gbps, which the OP requested.
But good for you.

 

[ddaenen1]

I am currently building a new pfSense box: X10SDV-4C-TLN2F with 32GB RDIMM RAM and an M.2 X400 SSD. Bought the board very cheap but NIC's are toast. I will add an X710-T2L to it and squeeze it in a Supermicro CSE505-203B chassis with 2 fans. Should easily do 10Gbps and also support 2.5Gbps and 5Gbps. Total cost when finished will be around 500 Euro and consume a lot less than 200W. More like 50-70W. Almost forgot to mention the best feature on this setup: IPMI !

 

[sfx2000]

Always interesting on the WAN/LAN and NAT gateways...

100 Mb/Sec - Easy for a single core 650 MHz MIPS24K
1,000 Mb/Sec - that's a bit steeper, do it well with a Quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 at 2GHz
10,000 Mb/Sec - as you can see where this curve is going - clocks matter...

One looks at BSD and there's challenges at the moment, same goes with Linux.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I am currently building a new pfSense box: X10SDV-TLN2F with 32GB RDIMM RAM and an M.2 X400 SSD. Bought the board very cheap but NIC's are toast. I will add an X710-T2L to it and squeeze it in a Supermicro CSE505-203B chassis with 2 fans. Should easily do 10Gbps and also support 2.5Gbps and 5Gbps. Total cost when finished will be around 500 Euro and consume a lot less than 200W. More like 50-70W. Almost forgot to mention the best feature on this setup: IPMI !

That motherboard alone, would cost US$850 where I live, so $500 is a pipe dream for anyone that can't get the board "cheap".

 

[TheLostSwede]

Always interesting on the WAN/LAN and NAT gateways...

100 Mb/Sec - Easy for a single core 650 MHz MIPS24K
1,000 Mb/Sec - that's a bit steeper, do it well with a Quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 at 2GHz
10,000 Mb/Sec - as you can see where this curve is going - clocks matter...

One looks at BSD and there's challenges at the moment, same goes with Linux.

That's not how that scales though and you should know this.
Plenty of 650-750 MHz SoCs can easily do Gigabit routing, as the MIPS architecture is better than ARM when it comes to routing, for some reason.
On top of that, any decent router SoC has, just like all other Arm based SoCs, dedicated co-processors that handle things like routing, which means the Arm processors are freed up to handle other tasks, like running the OS.
As such, 10 or 25 or even 100 Gbps is feasible on an Arm SoC, I mean how would those big Arm based servers do 100 Gbps otherwise?
It's obviously up to the SoC vendor to test and make sure it really works and to provide software support for the co-processor(s) to make sure it all works as intended. In the past, some companies have charged extra for this, which some router/device makers were unwilling to pay for and the end result was poor performance.
SoC Mhz have just about nothing to do with routing speeds.

Someone tested the older QHora-301W with a 10 Gbps ISP.

Couple of examples below, recent Broadcom SoC and a slightly older Qualcomm SoC.

 

[RMerlin]

Wait... That Qualcomm SoC has a quad-core A53 plus a dual core Ubi32, and they don't call their SoC "Hexacore"? Missed marketing opportunity there. /s

(just pointing out how silly Broadccom's pentacore marketing material was, or router manufacturers adding the numbers of all radios' max link rate and advertise that as total bandwidth).

 

[ddaenen1]

That motherboard alone, would cost US$850 where I live, so $500 is a pipe dream for anyone that can't get the board "cheap".

Well, i beg to differ. I cannot and will not buy anything from the States because the import taxes these days are insane but ebay US has more than one fully functioning boards on sale for about 400- 500 USD which means you would not need to buy the X710 card as it has 2 10Gbe ports so you would still get it done for 700 USD which is fantastic value for money considering the price of the price of some high-end consumer products.