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Replacement options for my RT-BE86U

sneak

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My router lost it's WAN port and LAN port 4 and I want to buy a new one, after buying this one earlier this year :(.

So I have liked the RT-BE86U for the most part, but I still had some deadzone issues that I had with my prior router in a location that seems like it probably isn't a range or obstruction issue. I'm pretty sure the issue is interference either from my neighbor on the other side of the wall, my refrigerator or a combination of both and/or other interferences. I don't think there's a router out there that would resolve this issue. I made a little awful diagram to explain what I mean:

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I'm also the only one on the network and this happens even with minimal connections. For example when I've got my phone in that dead zone I'm not using anything else via wifi (with the eception of whatever the 2 smart speakers I have are doing on the IOT 2.4 network just sitting there). Somehow I have buffering issues in this location. It did improve switching to this router but it never fully resolved. Seems like wherever else in the house I go I don't have the issue, which is another reason I think it's related to some kind of interference.

Anyway, the only features I've found that I am using on my current router are:
- I have 2.4 and 5 Ghz bands split into separate networks and I have a "GUEST NETWORK PRO" as an IOT 2.4 network. I really need this because I wasn't able to get my stuff working properly without creating it. I believe it was 1 specific device that had issues, and it was due to WiFi 7 being enabled, but I ended up putting my smart speakers, garage door opener, and some other things on it.
- Adaptive QOS prioritizing games (even though I don't really game anymore, when/if I do I want it prioritized and I don't seem to notice any downside to having it set this way). Though, I'm not sure how beneficial this could be even in theory because of how much throughput I have vs what games would actually demand and the fact nobody else is using my network but myself.
- For same reason I had the "Game" thing on recently after having it off for a long time, and I don't see any real difference with it of course but I was curious and turned it on at some point. Obviously since there was no difference I forgot about it.
- "Open NAT" is enabled.
- MLO is enabled.
- Until recently when my LAN port 4 was damaged I had LACP enabled and manually assigned two IPs for my NAS to use.
- I've defined a default DNS server in router settings.
- DNS over TLS enabled and defined.
- Port forwarding for Plex is enabled/defined.
- I do need to be able to disable SIP Passthrough, no matter what.
- IPv6 disabled.
- Router set to drop packets under "DoS protection" though I have little faith in what a little router like this can do. It would have to be a seemingly basic and small attack and even then it would probably not fair well from my experience in other areas.

I tried setting up an AiMesh to resolve things like this, as well as allow me to go out to the mailbox without losing connection. I found that it is supposed to SWITCH instead of be seamless.. and my phone doesn't seem to work well with it. I ended up selling my old router as a result.

So other than that I just care about having the best range and speeds on WiFi and the best experience on ethernet possible. I'd prefer to avoid using switches. I would love to be able to continue to use link aggregation on my NAS, in which case I'd love to have enough 2.5 Gbps ports just like this router does.

I'm pretty much in the situation where the one I already have is likely the best option for a replacement, or the ASUS RT-BE88U because I like how it has 8 ports so I won't really need a switch in my use cases probably ever. I had someone stay over for a week a few months ago and I had to buy a switch to run a long ethernet cable to the living room so they can use a computer in there. My ISP is getting everyone over to fiber. They'll supply an ONT and we just hook it up to our router. Right now the ISP offers up to 2 Gbps down and 100 Mbps up, but they told me that on fiber it will be full speed both directions. Not sure what's going on with their site since they have people on it already, but they have been growing rapidly in the last decade or so and I forsee a future where they will possibly be offering even higher speeds once they successfully get people switched over. From my understanding, with a situation like mine, the only benefits I'd see from using SFP+ is lower heat, latency, and power consumption. I don't know much about those, though.

As far as price I'd like to keep it around the same price as the RT-BE86U or lower. So that RT-BE88U is not much more and seems acceptable in terms of price. Is there some unit I'm missing out on that is much cheaper based on my use-case? I'd just want it to at least have 4 2.5 GbE ports for LAN.
 
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Whatever you get , put it near the wall below where you have marked "10-13 inch for monitors". That way it will have line of sight into the kitchen. Do not put it inside of anything. It needs to be in open air for heat release and better wifi signal to clients.
 
I still had some deadzone issues that I had with my prior router in a location that seems like it probably isn't a range or obstruction issue. I'm pretty sure the issue is interference either from my neighbor on the other side of the wall, my refrigerator or a combination of both and/or other interferences. I don't think there's a router out there that would resolve this issue.

WiFi is blocked/weakened by dense materials... your cluster of kitchen appliances plus utility closet with HVAC equipment/motors (EMF interference) is the likely reason your kitchen has a deadzone. The solution is to move the router so that the WiFi signal has less obstacles in its path to/from the kitchen.

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Whatever you get , put it near the wall below where you have marked "10-13 inch for monitors". That way it will have line of sight into the kitchen. Do not put it inside of anything. It needs to be in open air for heat release and better wifi signal to clients.
That may be possible. I didn't do it becuase I have stuff on the desk under/behind the monitors. Just by default I was putting it over by the modem, and I figured due to space constraints and in order to elevate the antennas I'd put it on top of the NAS.
Warranty excludes damage related to lightning. Sorry, didn't specify why it went out in the OP. Also with ASUS's recent headlines about how they have extremely dishonest business practices surrounging RMAs and their desire to put a hold on a card and then return only part of it at their discretion.. I don't feel very comfortable letting them do this.
 
I figured due to space constraints and in order to elevate the antennas I'd put it on top of the NAS.

I would not stack/co-locate a router/AP on top of another box of electronics... to avoid heat and radio interference.

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I would not stack/co-locate a router/AP on top of another box of electronics... to avoid heat and radio interference.

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I was a little concerned -- it was a thought in my head when I put the router on the NAS lol. For the most part things seem fine. I already had the dead spot prior. Maybe I will relocate it when I get a new one.

But mainly I'm considering the BE88U and another BE86U.
 
At this point I'm pretty committed to buying the same RT-BE86U because I was researching this and the RT-BE88U more extensively and found one site claim that the latency was much higher on the 88. I also found a lot more issues reported and people asking for help across various sites with the 88 compared to the 86. I also noticed the Amazon reviews for the 88 had alot more negative comments than the 86, and then checked the distribution of the ratings on Amazon. Not only did the 86 have a decent amount more reviews, but it leaned higher and the 88 leaned lower. If I'm to move the router to that alternate location, the vertical standing nature of the 86 would be better for space savings. It would also slightly elevate the antennas, I guess. I'm not seeing many reasons to choose the 88. The only thing is the amount of ports.

So unless something else comes up I'm going to end up getting another 86.
 
one site claim
Out of how many?
I see no latency issues here, none at all. Wifi/LAN/WAN all fine.
Just run a speedtest to confirm. 8ms is damn good, especially with vodafone UK. Mobile phone to wifi to WAN to Ookla.
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Out of how many?
I see no latency issues here, none at all. Wifi/LAN/WAN all fine.
Just run a speedtest to confirm. 8ms is damn good, especially with vodafone UK. Mobile phone to wifi to WAN to Ookla.
View attachment 67762

It was only on one site, because it's the only one I saw that did tests. Also, the latency was high relative to the 86U. Yours is 8 ms on that test, but that's between your connection and the host. The tests I saw were WiFi tests on the local network. It was showing something like 3x the latency of the 86U. The thing I was trying to point out by phrasing it as "I saw one site that said x" is that it was only information from ONE site. Not that I excluded the information from other sites.
 
it's possible a firmware update has resolved this

I would naturally hope so.
Latency Laptop>Router>Server over wifi (2 hops)
Code:
$ ping -c 10 10.0.0.15
PING 10.0.0.15 (10.0.0.15) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=4.77 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=4.71 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=2.44 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=5.04 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=3.29 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=5.39 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=5.97 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=1.83 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=3.43 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=3.70 ms

--- 10.0.0.15 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9015ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.834/4.056/5.968/1.264 ms
 
I would naturally hope so.
Latency Laptop>Router>Server over wifi (2 hops)
Code:
$ ping -c 10 10.0.0.15
PING 10.0.0.15 (10.0.0.15) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=4.77 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=4.71 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=2.44 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=5.04 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=3.29 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=5.39 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=5.97 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=1.83 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=3.43 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.15: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=3.70 ms

--- 10.0.0.15 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9015ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.834/4.056/5.968/1.264 ms

You haven't been having connectivity issues or any issues with the 88U?


Only other thing I wanted to do was find out the cable length, but I don't think yours will necessarily be the same as mine. I could only really check my 86U by moving it to the location I wanted to place a new one and see if the power cable reaches.
 
You haven't been having connectivity issues or any issues with the 88U?
Nothing at all, even with all the addons running too.
I'm not sure about the length of the power lead as it's bundled and wrapped with several ethernet cables. It is over 6ft long for sure. It's an inline unit rather than a wall wart.
 
Nothing at all, even with all the addons running too.
I'm not sure about the length of the power lead as it's bundled and wrapped with several ethernet cables. It is over 6ft long for sure. It's an inline unit rather than a wall wart.
Thanks. I wonder if the US version also has an inline.
 
Thanks. I wonder if the US version also has an inline.
It's likely as it would probably be the same charger. Mine came with additional leads for Europe and the USA.
 
It's likely as it would probably be the same charger. Mine came with additional leads for Europe and the USA.
Well that information has been helpful, and I wonder if all/most those negative comments were user error and/or old firmware issues. There were multiple things leaning against the 88U for me, but I like having all those ports. If lightning caused issues again I'd immediately have some spare ports without having to connect a switch and if I need to have someone over using my router I'd have spare 1 gig ports.

I like how the 86 stands up, especially since I want to place it where I plan on placing it. So it's even more of a difficult decision now :)
 
If you prefer a standing router the RT-BE86U is indeed the one to go for. The extra ports argument, to me, is invalid with the current prices fir multi gig switches.
My choice of this RT-BE88U over the 86 was untimately down to aesthetics - it was replacing an RT-AX88U that originally replaced an RT-AC88U.
 
If you prefer a standing router the RT-BE86U is indeed the one to go for. The extra ports argument, to me, is invalid with the current prices fir multi gig switches.
My choice of this RT-BE88U over the 86 was untimately down to aesthetics - it was replacing an RT-AX88U that originally replaced an RT-AC88U.
I just don't like having to have more clunky garbage on my desk with those stiff wires making things slide all over the place. It's just a big mess dealing with switches. The switches are light and small unless you pay for rack-sized, which I have no reason to do. I don't like dealing with all this stuff. I like the idea of just being able to connect a cable to the switch in the router. A few months ago I had someone stay over who needed to bring a work PC and I ran a really long ethernet cable to the living room after buying and setting up a switch. If something happens like it just did, and I lose a port, I don't like the idea of having to go buy a multigig switch. I want to immediately connect to another port (I understand this doesn't help me if the unit is entirely fried -- but in this case the WAN port went down to 100 Mbps and LAN port 4 died completely. The rest of the ports function fine).

There is room on my desk to move the router to the likely more optimal location, even if it's the 88U, but it would take up less space if it was standing. At this point I don't know if there is really any other option besides just making a decision. I can be indecisive when it comes to buying things I'm interested in.

Additionally my ISP only offers up to 2 Gbps down and 100 Mbps up right now for cable. They're rolling out fiber all over the place and I'm unsure what speeds they will be offering or what I'd be willing to pay for, but there could be benefit if they start offering 2.5G+ as I could get a 10G NIC in my PC and run 10G from (a new modem I'd have to buy) to the router, and another 10G from router to PC. It largely depends on what the prices for internet service are because obviously I don't have a real "need" for the higher speeds but there are situations where I could make use of them and would enjoy it over a lower speed.


EDIT: Actually, instead of just eyeing it I looked up meausrements for the 88U and I'm not too happy with the dimensions fitting in the spot I wanted to place the unit. I may have to make some sacrifices moving things in a way I wouldn't prefer to. It's a bit unknown due to how things will actually work out once I have a bunch of cat cables and the power cable sticking out the back.
 
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