Buffer bloat DSL-AX82U-AX5400

[TrebleTA]

So I see something on here about buffer bloat, so thought I give it a try
Buffer bloat test
So I tried on my DSL-AX82U, and well it's bad.
I'm on stock Firmware, and on adaptive Qos.
So I changed adaptive with manual setting setting my max upload and download, little below my speed, I now get a A on the test but under low legacy gaming it's still marked as bad.
Anything I can do?

Please ignore all to post 13.

 

[TrebleTA]

This is what I get..

 

[HellsChicken]

I had to install Merlin and use Cake QoS to minimize my bufferbloat. Yours on the stock firmware is better than mine was, but I have much improved results with cake (and spending some time to tweak the values until it seemed optimal).

 

[TrebleTA]

Yet this should no happen with asus ax routers I thought

 

[Crimliar]

These things are only a guide, and for some servers, you're always going to be just too distant to get low latency. There comes a point when you just can't beat physics!

 

[Tech9]

Anything I can do?

If you have no actual issues when using your connection - do something more pleasurable than playing with the router settings.

 

[TrebleTA]

If I'm playing say world of warcraft, then my son updates call of duty on his xbox.
Warcraft game is unplayable. Unless I meddle, my ping will go from 15ms too 3000+ms. So not right.

 

[Tech9]

You can try GNUton's fork of Asuswrt-Merlin with Cake QoS, but don't expect miracles on xDSL line.

 

[L&LD]

This is about as good as it can get with DSL ISP connections.

You may try to get the service provider to see if they can get you a cleaner signal.

You can also try adjusting the up/down QoS settings until your gameplay isn't affected by others' network use. Don't worry about the 'score' you'll get on the speedtests, just focus on the actual performance/consistency of the network itself.

Here is an extreme example from a while ago where going much below the 'paid for' ISP speeds netted benefits for one of my customers.

[Release] FreshJR Adaptive QOS (Improvements / Custom Rules / and Inner workings)

the install routine didn't recognize my system as Merlin, so I had to answer the "stock or not" question. Is that normal? AC3200 w/ 384.11. What's the output of "uname -o"? That's the only check it does to determine Merlin. It should be "ASUSWRT-Merlin"

www.snbforums.com

 

[TrebleTA]

Hi thanks for the replys, I will be on FTTP from the 24th so my dsl will be useless. I will have to use the ISP device as I be needing the phone so VOIP. I'm not sure of the options yet in the ISP device, for bridge mode etc, will worrie about that in time.

For me, the best way to stop bloat was by useing Bandwidth limiter, then on every gaming device set down as 20mb up as 3mb.
Other devices like alexa, camera mobiles etc, I set minimal so 2down 2 up.
This works with out problems, if there is anything big to download, I then disable Bandwidth on that device, or increase the limit but over 30down and 6 up I see latency.

I was thinking of selling on my DSL-AX82U, as I wont need the modem. Can I pass on the warranty?

 

[Tech9]

I will be on FTTP from the 24th so my dsl will be useless

What's the new ISP speed offered? With Bandwidth Limiter your WAN-LAN throughput is limited to 300Mbps.

I wont need the modem.

This is where all modem/router combo users end up eventually. You're lucky your router has Ethernet WAN port.

 

[Ripshod]

I will have to use the ISP device as I be needing the phone

Chances are there's a workaround so you can use your own router and keep digital voice.

 

[TrebleTA]

A old thread, but I'm still having bufferbloat issues with uploading on my DSL AX82U official FW latest, so thought I would come back to this thread, than starting a new one. Sorry I did not reply sooner but at the time had started a Double Nat post.

So my setup is this. I am using a double NAT setup, I put my ax82u on my ISP device as a DMZ. I need to use the ISP device for the landline.
My Download speed is 1gb my Upload is 100mb, I receive 1.1gb download and 106mb upload via fast.com. using the speed test on the Ax82u router, reports strange numbers with the download speed from 500mb - 790mb ish.

When I upload and someone is gaming, they are getting lag, so did a bufferbloat test, thinking with my speed it should be great, when downloading my latency increase by 2-3 yet upload increased by 100+ and was ranked at a C

What's the best way to try to fix this issue?

 

[bbunge]

A old thread, but I'm still having bufferbloat issues with uploading on my DSL AX82U official FW latest, so thought I would come back to this thread, than starting a new one. Sorry I did not reply sooner but at the time had started a Double Nat post.

So my setup is this. I am using a double NAT setup, I put my ax82u on my ISP device as a DMZ. I need to use the ISP device for the landline.
My Download speed is 1gb my Upload is 100mb, I receive 1.1gb download and 106mb upload via fast.com. using the speed test on the Ax82u router, reports strange numbers with the download speed from 500mb - 790mb ish.

When I upload and someone is gaming, they are getting lag, so did a bufferbloat test, thinking with my speed it should be great, when downloading my latency increase by 2-3 yet upload increased by 100+ and was ranked at a C

What's the best way to try to fix this issue?

Turn off QOS. With your bandwidth it hurts more than helps.

 

[TrebleTA]

I have QOS off.

 

[TrebleTA]

Guess I need a better router, any advice?

 

[Crimliar]

Why? What are you seeing that has you concerned?

 

[TrebleTA]

So when I do a Bufferbloat test i'm geeing a bad reading for upload, as showen below.

Was wondeing how I can solve this.
I'm on orginal Firmware, lastest.
QOS is disabled.

 

[sfx2000]

So when I do a Bufferbloat test i'm geeing a bad reading for upload, as showen below.

View attachment 67214

Was wondeing how I can solve this.
I'm on orginal Firmware, lastest.
QOS is disabled.

Numbers there are a bit suspect...

Try this...

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[Tech9]

Numbers there are a bit suspect...

This site has to be flagged as malicious. People test at line saturation, most do it over wireless, freak out from the result and hurt themselves with QoS first, then spend money for needless upgrades plus hurt themselves with QoS again.