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Featured CES 2019: ARRIS Announces Tri-Band Wi-Fi 6 Mesh System With All 4x4 Design

Discussion in 'General Wireless Discussion' started by Julio Urquidi, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. Julio Urquidi

    Julio Urquidi News Editor

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    Arris moved strongly into the growing Wi-Fi 6 consumer market with the announcement of its SURFboard mAX Pro Wi-Fi 6 Mesh Wi-Fi System.

    The AX1100 class system will support maximum link rates of 1200 Mbps on its 2.4 GHz radio and 4800 Mbps on both 5 GHz radios. The second 5 GHz radio will typically be used as a dedicated backhaul link.

    Aside from its four GbE ports and support for 2 GbE WAN link aggregation, the sleekly designed AX1100 is backwards compatible with 802.11a/b/g/n/ac, uses a SURFboard mAX Manager app for administration, has band steering, provides parental controls, and is compatible with Alexa.

    Pricing for ARRIS’ SURFboard mAX Pro Wi-Fi 6 Mesh Wi-Fi System (AX1100) hasn’t been set yet, however ARRIS says its new Wi-Fi system will be available during the first half of 2019. ARRIS will also release a single router version, SURFboard mAX Pro Wi-Fi 6 Mesh Wi-Fi Router at the same time.
     
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  2. Fatawan

    Fatawan Occasional Visitor

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    Does anyone know what chipset is inside?
     
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  3. Internet Man

    Internet Man Senior Member

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    The informed amateurs (not intended as an insult) who have edited the page at WikiDevi went with Broadcom BCM4908 CPU + 3x BCM43684 radios. https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Arris_SURFboard_W31

    The short-term confidentiality on the FCC docs expires today for this device but the documents are not actually online quite yet so we should be able to get confirmation soon. *Edit* FCC internal photos confirm the Broadcom chips above.

    All currently known tri-band AX11000 products use Broadcom chips. In fact, I don't think I've heard of any tri-band 802.11ax designs using Qualcomm chips. Any Qualcomm-based devices claiming to be "AX11000" would likely be dual-band and would depend on 160MHz channels and 8x8:8 operation for 5GHz 802.11ax. So far, most Qualcomm devices (Netgear RAX120, ASUS GT-AX6000, Cisco Meraki MR55, ...) which can support 8x8:8 switch down to 2x 4x4:4 when using HE80+80 channels, not a contiguous 160MHz wide channel. I'm assuming that this is a work-in-progress and that eventually they will support 8x8:8 when using 160MHz channels since the H3C WA6628 and Huawei AP7060DN were announced as AX11000 and supposedly use Qualcomm.
     
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  4. thiggins

    thiggins Mr. Easy Staff Member

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    I think it’s unlikely we’ll see 8 stream AX in consumer routers. It’s just too expensive. The second 5 GHz radio is much more useful for backhaul. Although you could argue that becomes unnecessary when they get OFDMA working, since it works with any # of streams.

    Right now, however, OFDMA is not enabled in bridge mode, at least not in NETGEAR’s RAX80. So I can’t do any OFDMA preliminary testing using multiple routers as bridges.

    I’ve asked Broadcom about this, but so far, crickets...
     
  5. sfx2000

    sfx2000 Part of the Furniture

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    Someone will do an 8-stream... why, because they can...

    I agree though - 4-stream is the practical limit for 2019 I think... once beyond 4-stream, the benefit is much less, esp since a vast majority of client radios are 2 stream...
     
  6. Waltski

    Waltski New Around Here

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    I'm looking forward to more information about the Arris SURFboard mAX Pro Wi-Fi 6 Mesh system, as it may finally be possible to provide practical gigabit wireless as Wifi 6 devices become more common. Even if those devices are slow to come to market, the longer-range wireless back haul between mesh units should allow higher wireless speeds for existing AC devices in the home (I hope...)
     
  7. Internet Man

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    What had led you to believe that the surfboard Max will have longer range?