Not able to find wireless mode in BE92U

[John Fitzgerald]

Title of post needs to be changed to: “Can’t find Wireless Mode on…
Not how to “Change” something that does not exist in the settings.

The premise is wrong.

 

[jzchen]

@jack ryan That is from an AC router settings. Your 5 GHz shows "WiFi7" and that is a concern to me. Try toggling it off.

@John Fitzgerald

This is actually a WiFi 7 router layout. What we are seeing is all three bands on separate SSIDs (no smart connect). He has selected 5 GHz (on the left) and the properties of that SSID are on the right. The two arrows pointing left <-- show where 2.4 and 6 GHz are on. The one pointing curved down and to the right shows that 5 GHz is the band of this SSID. If you want to Smart Connect 2.4 and/or 6 GHz you check the corresponding check box. (Very likely you will need to delete the 2.4 and/or 6 GHz SSID on the left first, before it allows you to).

@jack ryan I would say turn WiFi Agile Multiband ON, and Auto channel selection and auto bandwidth. Personally I do Smart Connect 2.4 and 5 GHz as shown on my BE98 Pro. I personally feel that it is mature enough to trust, so long as WiFi 7 Mode is off, (which I don't trust).

 

[jzchen]

I can't promise that WiFi Agile Multiband works well with SmartConnect, but it is similar to "SmartConnect" and it was developed by WiFi Alliance like EasyMesh. I do need it (WAM) in my mixed network of TP-Link DECO, ASUS routers separated to WiFi 7 and AX(E) networks, and a (not so good) ACER Predator Connect W6...

 

[John Fitzgerald]

@jzchen Side question/ does MLO work per band by that I mean it can be toggled for each band? I thought it was on or off, not per band.

Looking at post #22 picture

 

[jzchen]

@jzchen Side question/ does MLO work per band by that I mean it can be toggled for each band? I thought it was on or off, not per band.

Looking at post #22 picture

I'm afraid that depends on Manufacturer implementation, (or maybe chip manufacturer I am not sure).

MLO by definition means multiple simultaneous connection. I recall with my son's 6E MacBook for example I would see it connected both Ethernet and WiFi. So in the case of WiFi exclusively I would have to say no. The toggle is there but I believe it is meaningless unless you add more than one channel, aka Smart Connect 2 or more. ASUS seems to enforce all channels MLO'd as one. TP-Link on my BE95 shows just 5 and 6 GHz, (initially a long time ago it was all 3 bands). It probably could have been layed out a little less confusing, because there is also an MLO (tab) somewhere. If you do not also toggle that on it won't let you toggle this one that you refer to on.

WiFi 7 can be toggled on/off per band, which enables 320 MHz on those capable, 4k QAM (higher throughput/bandwidth), and 256-bit encryption (AES+GCMP256). This encryption scheme seems to have caused a backwards compatibility issue. (I guess it is a dilemma: Enforce 256-bit security, but lose backwards compatibility)....

 

[jack ryan]

@jack ryan That is from an AC router settings. Your 5 GHz shows "WiFi7" and that is a concern to me. Try toggling it off.

@John Fitzgerald
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This is actually a WiFi 7 router layout. What we are seeing is all three bands on separate SSIDs (no smart connect). He has selected 5 GHz (on the left) and the properties of that SSID are on the right. The two arrows pointing left <-- show where 2.4 and 6 GHz are on. The one pointing curved down and to the right shows that 5 GHz is the band of this SSID. If you want to Smart Connect 2.4 and/or 6 GHz you check the corresponding check box. (Very likely you will need to delete the 2.4 and/or 6 GHz SSID on the left first, before it allows you to).

@jack ryan I would say turn WiFi Agile Multiband ON, and Auto channel selection and auto bandwidth. Personally I do Smart Connect 2.4 and 5 GHz as shown on my BE98 Pro. I personally feel that it is mature enough to trust, so long as WiFi 7 Mode is off, (which I don't trust).

Thank you jzchen.

Just removed wifi 7 on 5ghz.

 

[jack ryan]

Title of post needs to be changed to: “Can’t find Wireless Mode on…
Not how to “Change” something that does not exist in the settings.

The premise is wrong.

Thanks John.
Just updated the title of thread.

 

[jack ryan]

I'm afraid that depends on Manufacturer implementation, (or maybe chip manufacturer I am not sure).

MLO by definition means multiple simultaneous connection. I recall with my son's 6E MacBook for example I would see it connected both Ethernet and WiFi. So in the case of WiFi exclusively I would have to say no. The toggle is there but I believe it is meaningless unless you add more than one channel, aka Smart Connect 2 or more. ASUS seems to enforce all channels MLO'd as one. TP-Link on my BE95 shows just 5 and 6 GHz, (initially a long time ago it was all 3 bands). It probably could have been layed out a little less confusing, because there is also an MLO (tab) somewhere. If you do not also toggle that on it won't let you toggle this one that you refer to on.

WiFi 7 can be toggled on/off per band, which enables 320 MHz on those capable, 4k QAM (higher throughput/bandwidth), and 256-bit encryption (AES+GCMP256). This encryption scheme seems to have caused a backwards compatibility issue. (I guess it is a dilemma: Enforce 256-bit security, but lose backwards compatibility)....

the issue that i am seeing right now is wifi 7 speed on 6ghz is slower than wifi 6 on 5ghz.

I have 1Gbps download, able to achieve ~700 Mbps on 5ghz with Iphone 14.
But on 6Ghz using Iphone 16, it can only achieve 200-300 Mbps max.

how can i improve wifi 7 output ?

 

[John Fitzgerald]

the issue that i am seeing right now is wifi 7 speed on 6ghz is slower than wifi 6 on 5ghz.

I have 1Gbps download, able to achieve ~700 Mbps on 5ghz with Iphone 14.
But on 6Ghz using Iphone 16, it can only achieve 200-300 Mbps max.

how can i improve wifi 7 output ?

Did you change DTIM to 3, this is what Apple recommends. See post #19

But on 6Ghz using Iphone 16, it can only achieve 200-300 Mbps max.

Use Apple's "forget this network", then reload and see if the speeds improve.

 

[jack ryan]

Did you change DTIM to 3, this is what Apple recommends. See post #19



Use Apple's "forget this network", then reload and see if the speeds improve.

hi John, thanks for your suggestion.
Change DTIM to 3 and still no speed improvement.

 

[John Fitzgerald]

hi John, thanks for your suggestion.
Change DTIM to 3 and still no speed improvement.

Did you reset the network on the phone, you only answered half of what I suggested?
Also, change DTIM for the other 2 bands, not just the 6.
Provide screen shots of the 3 bands for the Professional Tab so all can see where you are currently.

EDIT: try turning on WiFi Agile Multiband on the 6 band, under Professional Tab.

 

[user114514]

You need ssh.

nvram set wl0_nmode_x X (2.4G)
nvram set wl1_nmode_x X (5G)
nvram set wl2_nmode_x X (6G)
nvram commit
service restart_wireless

where X is the wireless mode code:
0: auto, 1: n-only+, 2: lenacy-only, 8: n/ac/ax mixed, 9: ax-only

These codes are from older models and I'm not sure they work on 11be models.

 

[user114514]

The actual DTIM interval is DTIM interval x beacon interval, measured in TUs. Changing this has no impact on performance; simply leave it as is.
Wi-Fi Agile Multiband is actually MBO, which also has no impact on performance. ASUS doesn't provide any parameters for MBO, so enabling or disabling it has no real effect.

If you need to diagnose speed issues, observe the device's RSSI and the deviation between the negotiated link rate and the actual speed, rather than fiddling with any wireless settings first. ASUS's WebUI allows you to view each device's realtime RSSI and negotiated link rate.

 

[user114514]

the issue that i am seeing right now is wifi 7 speed on 6ghz is slower than wifi 6 on 5ghz.

I have 1Gbps download, able to achieve ~700 Mbps on 5ghz with Iphone 14.
But on 6Ghz using Iphone 16, it can only achieve 200-300 Mbps max.

how can i improve wifi 7 output ?

What's the speed of the iPhone 16 when connected only to 5GHz? Comparing across devices is meaningless, as iPhone 16 and iPhone 14 are equipped with completely different WiFi/BT modules and drivers.

 

[John Fitzgerald]

The actual DTIM interval is DTIM interval x beacon interval, measured in TUs. Changing this has no impact on performance; simply leave it as is.
Wi-Fi Agile Multiband is actually MBO, which also has no impact on performance. ASUS doesn't provide any parameters for MBO, so enabling or disabling it has no real effect.

If you need to diagnose speed issues, observe the device's RSSI and the deviation between the negotiated link rate and the actual speed, rather than fiddling with any wireless settings first. ASUS's WebUI allows you to view each device's realtime RSSI and negotiated link rate.

You should contact ASUS and have them remove these useless features.

 

[user114514]

You should contact ASUS and have them remove these useless features.

These features are for those who know what they're doing, not for enthusiasts who randomly adjust some knobs without any theoretical basis and feel LGTM.

In fact, the only use case for the DTIM interval is to maintain a constant actual DTIM interval when you lower the beacon interval to reduce passive scan latency, so that your STAs don't exit low-power too frequently when idle due to a low beacon interval, rather than to address any throughput issues.

The only purpose of MBO is to help ASUS pass WFA certification, as it is a mandatory feature for WiFi 6 certification. For end users, MBO without parameters is meaningless. If you know this, you can disable it to save some bytes in the beacon IE.

 

[John Fitzgerald]

These features are for those who know what they're doing, not for enthusiasts who randomly adjust some knobs without any theoretical basis and feel LGTM.

In fact, the only use case for the DTIM interval is to maintain a constant actual DTIM interval when you lower the beacon interval to reduce passive scan latency, so that your STAs don't exit low-power too frequently when idle due to a low beacon interval, rather than to address any throughput issues.

The only purpose of MBO is to help ASUS pass WFA certification, as it is a mandatory feature for WiFi 6 certification. For end users, MBO without parameters is meaningless. If you know this, you can disable it to save some bytes in the beacon IE.

Don't spend any time trying to correct me and instead tell @jack ryan how to fix his speed issue on the BE92U and his iPhone 16, otherwise your "help" is useless.

 

[user114514]

Don't spend any time trying to correct me and instead tell @jack ryan how to fix his speed issue on the BE92U and his iPhone 16, otherwise your "help" is useless.

Not sure if you have a reading disability, but until he answers my existing question, which is to determine the actual link rate at 5GHz and 6GHz, I can't further diagnose the actual problem because I don't have enough information.

 

[John Fitzgerald]

Not sure if you have a reading disability, but until he answers my existing question, which is to determine the actual link rate at 5GHz and 6GHz, I can't further diagnose the actual problem because I don't have enough information.

Have a nice day Richard!

 

[jzchen]

You need ssh.

nvram set wl0_nmode_x X (2.4G)
nvram set wl1_nmode_x X (5G)
nvram set wl2_nmode_x X (6G)
nvram commit
service restart_wireless

where X is the wireless mode code:
0: auto, 1: n-only+, 2: lenacy-only, 8: n/ac/ax mixed, 9: ax-only

These codes are from older models and I'm not sure they work on 11be models.

Not sure if you have a reading disability, but until he answers my existing question, which is to determine the actual link rate at 5GHz and 6GHz, I can't further diagnose the actual problem because I don't have enough information.

He's trying to resolve a BE router issue. If you aren't sure the SSH settings work on be routers and don't know the parameters to set be mode how's that going to help, only confuse?

Unfortunately 6 GHz connections on ASUS routers sometimes show as Ethernet (even if there is no cable connecting the 2 and you are certain there is a 6 GHz connection. For example my GT-AXE11000 is running with a TP-Link RE815XE at my in-laws' house. You link each band individually so it extends that band, 2.4, 5, and 6 GHz. So I can verify on the extender LEDs as well as the TP-Link Tether app that all three bands are connected AND extended, but many times the RE815XE doesn't even show 3 connections on the ASUS router pages, AND other times shows Ethernet for 6 GHz! Very few times do I see 6 GHz connection between the two, and even the name that I custom set (so I recognize it) doesn't show on the router. The requested info provided (when incorrectly shown as Ethernet) is minimal. The client list on ASUS routers has been unreliable forcing us to use client info to troubleshoot...

@jack ryan Sorry I wish I could be more help. While I recently purchased a RT-BE92U this is only half the equation, and my son who has an iPhone 16 Pro lives in San Francisco, leaving me with a single OnePlus Open/6 GHz capable device. This is only half the equipment I need to troubleshoot/diagnose.

Not even seeing/connecting to 6 GHz was a big problem when the first MacBook (M2) 6E released. What I ended up doing after many hours of work (including Apple support having me hard reset my ASUS AiMesh network. One of my nodes sits about 12 ft up on an entrance way window sill, so I have to climb a ladder to tinker/hard reset it). I ended up buying the TP-Link RE815XE, installed it, behold it connect/work (with updated firmware), and copy settings over. (I ended up keeping it. "Hey, it works"! Worked out great in my son's room at the time).