AC86U Heat sink mod.... er hack

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Maverickcdn

Senior Member
@Maverickcdn could i use a copperpipe and cut and flatten a small piece?
No I wouldnt

Hard mount cooling (no thermal pad) requires true flat surfaces. You risk overheating part of the die cause there is poor contact

its $14 canadian rubles for copper stock, a hacksaw and couple dabs of thermal grease/paste (required), (optionally, sandpaper to smooth the copper as much as possible)

Amazon Copper Stock
Amazon Thermal Compound
 

Darkje

Occasional Visitor
No I wouldnt

Hard mount cooling (no thermal pad) requires true flat surfaces. You risk overheating part of the die cause there is poor contact

its $14 canadian rubles for copper stock, a hacksaw and couple dabs of thermal grease/paste (required), (optionally, sandpaper to smooth the copper as much as possible)

Amazon Copper Stock
Amazon Thermal Compound
Crap, i cant get a small piece of Copper. I have thermal compound.but ac86 is HOT
 

Maverickcdn

Senior Member
I found some for wifi is also 3mm thick?

IT says quality Sf-Cu half-hard. Would IT be ok?

Close to 3mm anyway, wifi also had 2.5mm thermal pads (im pretty sure anyway) but didnt have an impression like the CPU die one.

Honestly thinking about it more for the temps the radio chips run at, copper is overkill, adding thermal compound to the pads may help reduce the temp another few degrees.

As long as its roughly a 15mm x 15mm x 3mm piece of flat copper stock it'll work.
 

Maverickcdn

Senior Member
Thinking about this even more...

Given Id used a 3mm piece of copper.... I would not put copper on the wifi chips and would retain the pads or at the very least measure and use exact sized copper for all 3.

The screws that mount the heatsink are short, fine thread, and 3 or 4mm screws. The heatsink has 'some' flex but I fear disaster will strike someone if they try and remount their heatsink with 3 pieces of oversized copper and they end up crushing their CPU die (corners of a die are extremely fragile) trying to put in the screws

Remember this is a warranty voiding MOD/HACK and like all physical mods/hacks it comes with its own inherent device killing risks. You've been warned.

Apologies for the titling and wording of this thread, but this thread was not intended to be a guide but more a blog about about my experience modding my unit and it currently lies somewhere in the middle. Im a believer in well written mod guides which would require measuring clearances and providing exact details, things I never got to. If you've never done something like this before read the disclaimer above a few more times, if you're still confident in trying it out there's nothing like the thrill of seeing your handy work full fill the goals you set for it, in this case for me it grossly exceeded my expectations, since the compound has cured and a little cooler here my unit idles at 38C and hit a low of 36.5 with 1 80mm fan. Thread probably should have been titled AC86U Heat Sink Hack :)

My way of thinking
Hack=lacking in details, just the basics, if you do this + this you get this
Mod=descriptive guide, measurements, methods, similar to a 'how to'

So again, perform these alterations at your own risk, the information provided is what worked for ME

Happy routing and modding... er hacking :cool:

Mav

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Darkje

Occasional Visitor
Thinking about this even more...

Given Id used a 3mm piece of copper.... I would not put copper on the wifi chips and would retain the pads or at the very least measure and use exact sized copper for all 3.

The screws that mount the heatsink are short, fine thread, and 3 or 4mm screws. The heatsink has 'some' flex but I fear disaster will strike someone if they try and remount their heatsink with 3 pieces of oversized copper and they end up crushing their CPU die (corners of a die are extremely fragile) trying to put in the screws

Remember this is a warranty voiding MOD/HACK and like all physical mods/hacks it comes with its own inherent device killing risks. You've been warned.

Apologies for the titling and wording of this thread, but this thread was not intended to be a guide but more a blog about about my experience modding my unit and it currently lies somewhere in the middle. Im a believer in well written mod guides which would require measuring clearances and providing exact details, things I never got to. If you've never done something like this before read the disclaimer above a few more times, if you're still confident in trying it out there's nothing like the thrill of seeing your handy work full fill the goals you set for it, in this case for me it grossly exceeded my expectations, since the compound has cured and a little cooler here my unit idles at 38C and hit a low of 36.5 with 1 80mm fan. Thread probably should have been titled AC86U Heat Sink Hack :)

My way of thinking
Hack=lacking in details, just the basics, if you do this + this you get this
Mod=descriptive guide, measurements, methods, similar to a 'how to'

So again, perform these alterations at your own risk, the information provided is what worked for ME

Happy routing and modding... er hacking :cool:

Mav

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Just keep breathing bro. I Just try to get things clear before i even give IT a shot. So if IT is open and IT should be the same size Copper, then why not do it. Since there is plenty right.

So i even thought to place a notobook heatpipe cpu cooler. I have a few so could also be a option. Fact... Its running damn hot...
 

Darkje

Occasional Visitor
So today i had a big issue, temps of my unit raised up to 80 to 86 degrees... even on high load 93. The router became unstable. And data transfers where dropping extremely.
So i decided to or buy a new router, or mod this unit... and if fail... buy a new router :)

So what i did is a took a old heatpipe. And cut a piece of copper, the size is 1,7 mm, i checked the dept of the unit and i saw this should be a exact fit in my case (i dont know how @Maverickcdn pushed in 3mm) any how... I added some thermal compound. Currently unit is responsive again add a temprature of 60 / 65 degrees.
 

Kendo

Regular Contributor
Nice job Maverickcdn, thanks for sharing.
 

kerbz

New Around Here
So my RT-AC86U, hardware version R1.5 manufactured 2018 warranty expired June 2020, is maintaining 2.4/5/cpu 57C 61C 93C with room ambient 23C and cpu constantly 95-98% idle on merlin latest 386.2_6.... it needs assistance, and this thread has already been a big help! Thank you!

For clarity though, I'm looking at thermal pastes 12.7 to 15.7 W/mK, thermal pads 12.8 W/mK, and/or copper shims to order, and still haven't decided.

If I get the thermal pad, then it makes sense to get the 2.5mm exact thickness replacement. If I go this route, to confirm, I would also use thermal paste on both sides of the thermal pad?

If I get copper, should I really get 3mm, or should I get something 2mm or 2.5mm? Reference, in a previous reply, Darkje indicated he was observing a distance of 1.7mm. What about getting a pack of copper shims that vary in thickness (0.3mm, 0.5mm, 0.8mm, 1mm, 1.2mm, etc) and then using a combination of them? Of course, however, one piece is obviously superior and the best route. Related, again, I gather that I would put thermal paste on both sides of the copper shim(s)?

Fwiw, I assume OP totally removed the pad and placed the copper with paste on each side in its place? note: at first sight of the second photo, I was wondering or questioning whether the position of the copper in the photo was its final placement (next to the original pad)! :p

cheers!
 
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