NETGEAR Debuts AC3200 Nighthawk

[Razor512]

I don't see this improving range. Potential range may be lower since users will not be able to replace the antennas with higher gain ones.

Most new higher end routers are already extremely close to the unreasonably low transmit power limits set by the FCC.

 

[azazel1024]

I don't see this improving range. Potential range may be lower since users will not be able to replace the antennas with higher gain ones.

Most new higher end routers are already extremely close to the unreasonably low transmit power limits set by the FCC.

Why wouldn't they be able to? I mean, any different than today. Some manufacturers use internal antennas, some use non-replaceable external and some use rp-sma or sma connectors and external antennas so you can swap antennas. I don't see that changing anytime soon. The current beam steering techniques used rely on constructive and destructive interference of the multiple antennas and don't really (at least entirely) rely on a strict orientation of those antennas. Its part of why it can take large fractions of a second for optimal beam steering gain to occur because the router has to evaluate (ideally with the client involved) what broadcast timing, frequencies, etc from each antenna results in the proper constructive interference pointed at the client it is trying to talk to.

 

[Razor512]

Unless they made some breakthrough with beamforming, it seems that the main improvement will be management of congestion, other than that it will likely at the PCB level, be a R7000 with an extra 5GHz wifi radio.

 

[azazel1024]

Oh. So you are speaking specifically to this router. Sorry, I thought you were talking about more about tri-band and/or mu:mimo not doing anything for improved range or possibly reducing it.

Yes, with this specific router due to fixed antennas it might have lower performance than other routers that have user replacable antennas where a user replaces them with much higher gain antennas.

 

[sm00thpapa]

Anyone here on the forum pre-order this bad boy already?

 

[damir]

Is this router AC3200, going to be better buy then new Linksys router?

I might be blind, but, i am trying to locate full hardware specs, and unable. (maybe 2 much drinking for Canada day already)

Thanks

 

[thiggins]

Is this router AC3200, going to be better buy then new Linksys router?

I might be blind, but, i am trying to locate full hardware specs, and unable. (maybe 2 much drinking for Canada day already)

http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/R8000/R8000_DS_11Jun14.pdf

 

[damir]

Thank you.

Also new Asus is coming out?

Maybe i should wait for that, as we don't have Merlin in Linksys \ Netgear routers?

 

[sm00thpapa]

Stay clear away from Belkin/Linksys. That's all I'm going to say.

 

[htismaqe]

Stay clear away from Belkin/Linksys. That's all I'm going to say.

Others here could say the same about Netgear.

 

[philmiami]

I returned to Amazon a WRT1900AC Linksys router because it was just too problematic......
I agree to NOT have a Linksys right now..it wasn't ready for prime time
And to have something that looks like a turned over beetle with so many antennas, I would walk in and grab a can of RAID and try to kill it.....

 

[sm00thpapa]

Same here more problems than worth my time. That's why it's sitting in the corner collecting dust for the last 2 weeks. Belkin/Linksys is trying to assist me with it but I refuse to hook it back up to my network. I may plug it in sometime next week.


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[htismaqe]

I returned to Amazon a WRT1900AC Linksys router because it was just too problematic......
I agree to NOT have a Linksys right now..it wasn't ready for prime time
And to have something that looks like a turned over beetle with so many antennas, I would walk in and grab a can of RAID and try to kill it.....

Too be fair, if one peruses the Asus sub-forum here, you're having quite a few issues with the AC68U you just bought, as well.

 

[sm00thpapa]

True all routers have their own faults. With all these AC2350 and AC3200 routers launching in the next few months it will give all of us router enthusiasts a headache.

 

[htismaqe]

True all routers have their own faults.

Truth when talking about the AC1900 routers, although I think the AC68U is probably the most stable, if you're using RMerlin's firmware. I know people have had good luck with DD-WRT on the R7000 but I don't think Netgear should get kudos for that.

Speaking of Netgear, there's a new sub-forum up over there for the R8000. It's official.

 

[philmiami]

Too be fair, if one peruses the Asus sub-forum here, you're having quite a few issues with the AC68U you just bought, as well.

yes, and next week I will probably replace the Asus RT-AC68U with a Ubiquiti Edge Router Lite and a Ubi Pro-AP

Return the Asus to Amazon and swear off consumer routers because once they went away from plain old single band routers, they added more and more stuff but the products got worse and worse.

then again, I may keep it.......undecided at this time.

 

[htismaqe]

yes, and next week I will probably replace the Asus RT-AC68U with a Ubiquiti Edge Router Lite and a Ubi Pro-AP

Return the Asus to Amazon and swear off consumer routers because once they went away from plain old single band routers, they added more and more stuff but the products got worse and worse.

then again, I may keep it.......undecided at this time.

I'm sure you'll eventually figure it out. I went through a similar deal and things finally stabilized for me.

 

[azazel1024]

I'll admit it is part of the reason why I live in olden times with just older 11n routers. I figure something that is a year old, there has been time to both iron out some firmware bugs, but also get a feel for what good stable products there are before jumping on something.

Part of the problem is wireless is hard. So many different clients that every AP/router has to work with and soooooo many different driver versions.

 

[htismaqe]

I'm not sure a year is even enough anymore, honestly.

 

[azazel1024]

I'm not sure a year is even enough anymore, honestly.

Meh. Its better than being bleeding edge. That said I think my WDR3600 are closer to 18 months old at this point and I did only get them about 2 months ago.