Xd4 mini as mesh nodes with ax86u pro

[fen]

When I am connected with Android galaxy s23 ultra phone and a galaxy s10 to xd4 mesh nodes with ethernet backhaul, and upload files to lan the speed is about 2MB/sec.

If I do the same thing with a laptop it is about 12MB/sec.

If I connect the phone to main router ax86u pro the upload speed is about 12MB/sec.

If I use wireless backhaul, the upload speed from the phone is about 9MB/sec when connected to xd4 mini.

The download speed is about 12MB/sec regardless backhaul type.

The internet speeds are good regardless.

Firmware is latest on all routers/nodes. Using merlin on main router, and asus Firmware on the nodes. Have tried multiple hard resets on the nodes. I have 3 xd4 nodes, same thing with all.

What is going on, why is the upload speed from the phones to the lan so slow when connected to xd4 mini as mesh nodes with ethernet backhaul?

And how to fix it?

Thanks.

 

[Tech9]

All the speeds you report are very slow for AX-class hardware. 12MB/sec is ~100Mbps.

 

[fen]

Thanks for replying.

This is when uploading to an external disk connected to the router over samba. Connections between nodes and router is 1Gbps, the disk is usb3 connected to the usb3 port on the router directly.

Any idea why I am seeing so slow speeds?

 

[bennor]

This is when uploading to an external disk connected to the router over samba.

The router is not a NAS. If you need an NAS look into either buying or building a dedicated NAS. There are a number of factors that impact the speed of a USB drive connected to the router. Among them are the USB device itself. Personally I've always gotten somewhat disappointing USB hard transfer drive speed (testing using a number of USB3.0 supported HDD and SSD drives) on a RT-AX86U Pro. For what ever reason apparently some USB enclosures just don't play nice with the Asus router USB 3.0 port.

If you are using Windows, there is a known issue with recent Windows 11 24H2 update(s) that impact Samba/NAS usage and can result in the transfer speed being halved. See the following article for the fix (if you haven't made the fix already).

Windows 11 24H2 significantly slows down SMB data transfer speed

Users who installed Windows 11 24H2 complain that they experienced extremely slow read and write speeds over the SMB protocol. A user reported that while

winaero.com

 

[fen]

The router is not a NAS. If you need an NAS look into either buying or building a dedicated NAS. There are a number of factors that impact the speed of a USB drive connected to the router. Among them are the USB device itself. Personally I've always gotten somewhat disappointing USB hard transfer drive speed (testing using a number of USB3.0 supported HDD and SSD drives) on a RT-AX86U Pro. For what ever reason apparently some USB enclosures just don't play nice with the Asus router USB 3.0 port.

If you are using Windows, there is a known issue with recent Windows 11 24H2 update(s) that impact Samba/NAS usage and can result in the transfer speed being halved. See the following article for the fix (if you haven't made the fix already).

Windows 11 24H2 significantly slows down SMB data transfer speed

Users who installed Windows 11 24H2 complain that they experienced extremely slow read and write speeds over the SMB protocol. A user reported that while

winaero.com

Thanks, its not from Windows, its from Android it is extra slow.

 

[degrub]

If you want to experiment, try a USB3 SSD drive instead. Seriously, though, you will get much better transfer speeds with a designed NAS device rather than an ad hock marketing feature.

 

[fen]

Sure, but the issue I am trying to understand is why the uploads speeds are so much slower when being connected to xd4 with ethernet backhaul vs wireless backhaul specifically with Android phones.

 

[bennor]

Sure, but the issue I am trying to understand is why the uploads speeds are so much slower when being connected to xd4 with ethernet backhaul vs wireless backhaul specifically with Android phones.

What is the router or phone indicating for speed when the phone is connected to the main router versus when connected to the xd4 mini? And which WiFi band, 2.4 or 5ghz, is the phone using when connected to the xd4 mini?

It may help if you post more details, like the specific firmware versions along with readable screen shots of your router's AiMesh and WiFi configuration along with the xd4 mini configuration so people can see if there is a settings issue.

 

[jksmurf]

It may help if you post more details,

Just a something else you may wish to supply, is what the AiMesh screen says about the backhaul connectivity health, I’m case the bottleneck is not phone to XD4 but rather the Ethernet hop back to the main router, if the latter is where yiu are measuring speed. The 100Mbps calculated by Tech9 above seems potentially indicative of a 100/1000 connection dropping back to 100 (cable, switch, port, something else)?