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10GBe NAS advice please - not finding what I would like..

Discussion in 'NAS Buying Advice' started by EngChi, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. EngChi

    EngChi Regular Contributor

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    I have DS115j and DS216j and would like to upgrade
    what I want
    - SFP+ with ability to switch to 10Gbaset later (I have a switch with SFP+ now so everything within the rack in the basement would easily connect , while my house is wired for cat6)
    - at least 4 bays
    - prefer to stay within synology/qnap brands
    - would like to keep this under $100 per bay (without HDD) if possible
    - rack mounted is ok if the premium is <50% over same hardware in desktop version
    - run unifi controller on always on device (behind the UPS)

    so I looked at Synology lines first and am not seeing great hardware choices
    - 10G is not built in
    - where 10G is optional , it is far above my desired budget
    - anything I see with Intel CPU does not have SFP+

    QNAP looks much better for hardware , however I can not find good match either
    - the X line (951x, 932x, 963x) look right but are fixed to their perspective 10G choices and do not have a PCI slot to later put in an upgrade card. I also do not know how well Unifi would run in ARM on 932X
    - 832X is 8 bays, cheap, ARM, SFP+ built in, with PCI slot to put the card for later. this is probably the closest to what I want. is there something like this with non-arm CPU?
     
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  3. thiggins

    thiggins Mr. Easy Staff Member

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    QNAP has more 10GbE capable NASes than Synology.

    All models that have PCIe slots can take QNAP's 10GbE cards. Some may not come with a 10GbE card.
     
  4. coxhaus

    coxhaus Part of the Furniture

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    You might want to check the 10GbE devices for power requirements and heat dissipation. The 10GbE switches seem to put off a lot more heat and use more electricity. This can be a problem if you are using it in a closet or confined space.
     
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  5. System Error Message

    System Error Message Part of the Furniture

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    You can always build your own, grab some 2nd hand mellanox SFP+ cards. SFP+ switches are cheaper and SFP+ is only cheaper than 10Gbe if you are using SFP+ direct less than 5 meters, otherwise the module pricings are what kills you.
     
  6. EngChi

    EngChi Regular Contributor

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    Thank you guys
    1. I spent a lot of time with qnap NAS selector/product filter
    - too many models
    - anything with SFP+ that I see does not have intel CPU and I am not sure I can easily run UniFi controller on ARM
    -the 9**X line (951X, 932X, 963X) , look good, but it is fixed to one of the specific 10G interfaces, no ability to change it later

    2. my play switch is Brocade ICX 6450 that has 4 SFP+ ports. I have no switches with 10GBe RJ45 , I am interested in getting them however not sure I want to spend $500+ for switch from UBNT. Thus initial focus on something SFP+ compatible.

    3. to build my own server- I have few hardware pieces lying around, 2xConnect X3 cards, some SFP+ AOC cables already. the problem is that server<>NAS, and I would then have to maintain it, etc. I've run Ubuntu before, Win 2012/2016, played with Xpenology (like it but too unpredictable for any real use outside of play as any update may brick you)

    so I may just separate everything out
    - get unifi controller ver 2 from UBNT store ($200)
    - let Shield do the Plex
    - leave NAS to be NAS, either get 832X now (SFP+ built in and PCIE slot to put in CAT6 10GBE later) or simply put 12 TB drives into existing 216j and revisit next year
     
  7. System Error Message

    System Error Message Part of the Furniture

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    I dont know why if a unifi controller worked for a branded NAS that it shouldnt work for a DIY NAS. a DIY NAS will do everything a branded NAS can do and more, the only different is setting it up yourself. You can pick a full linux OS or go for a specialised one like openNAS and many others.

    But the decision is up to you between DIY and getting a premade one.
     
  8. HowIFix

    HowIFix Guest

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    Maybe something of this video, you like:
     
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2018
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