Asus Setup/Issues

[Enoviles]

I have just picked up an Asus 5300 and have an old Apple Airport Extreme Fifth gen. The Airport has treated me well and I always got as good of wireless performance from it in Speedtest as I did wired. No need to reboot and was rock solid.

I just picked up the Asus because I got a ring doorbell and it seems to need the a wireless router sitting right on top of it to work well.

Unfortunately that means the airport was not where the rest of the devices needed it to be for a strong signal.

What is my best option? Two seperate wireless networks? There are various forums posts saying the Airport Extreme can and can't be used as an access point.

If it can how is this accomplished via software and hardware as so far my efforts have failed. Run a cable from the Asus to the wan port? on the airport and set it to extend? Bridge mode?

Also another odd issue is my old fifth gen airport connected to a very old Snapgear
SG570 router had 10-20 milliseconds better ping on Speedtest on all the severs. That is 48-56 with just the Asus and 29-41 with the AirPort Extreme plus Snapgear. The 29 jumping to 48 and 40-41 to 56. Up and down bandwidth is the same.

While the Snapgear was an impressive
piece of gear back in the day surely there is something going on? Everything is the latest stock firmware.

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[L&LD]

'Latest stock firmware' doesn't mean anything. (Really). Please specify firmware in use.

How fast are your ISP speeds? I don't know of any router (AE or otherwise) that features the same speed wired or wireless. And the AE that I had (and gave away) was nowhere close to being called 'fast' for me (a NG WNDR3700 proved much, much faster in my network and environment).

Just to clarify, you bought an RT-AC5300 because the ring doorbell needs a router right next to it?

The SG570 is limited to 10/100baseT Ethernet, with limited functionality/features (compared to modern routers). That could be one reason for it's better latency.

With the RT-AC5300, did you flash to a different/newer firmware? If so, did you then do a reset to factory defaults? Followed by a manual and minimal configuration to secure the router and connect to your ISP?

http://www.snbforums.com/threads/no...l-and-manual-configuration.27115/#post-205573


Have you used new ssid's? Or, at least 'forgotten' then re-associated each device again with the new router? Do your ssid's, passwords and device names only contain alphanumeric characters?

http://www.snbforums.com/threads/rt-ac66u-slow-wan-to-lan.12973/page-3#post-269410


The above posts may help in minimizing these seemingly random 'glitches'.

 

[Enoviles]

Firmware version 3.0.0.4.380_3341

My ISP is rated 50/5 I get 61.1/6.1 supposedly TWC aka Spectrum will be 300/30 or so by 2017. I of course will believe when I see it.

As example of wired versus wireless that you mention. I was getting 61.43/6.28 wired with 38 ping on a Speedtest sever, 61.16/6.1 on an iPhone 6s Plus with a 40 ping, and 62.29/6.48 with a 39 ping on and Ipad Pro 12.9 inch version. The AirPort Extreme had no wired clients and wasn't the router, the Snapgear was the router. I currently have far more wireless devices than wired but I am transitioning that over soon.

I bought a new router so the Ring door bell could have a router nearby it, i.e. the older AirPort Extreme. I bought an Asus 5300 to have a theoretically faster wireless connection and to be ready for future bandwidth increase from Spectrum if they arrive. It seemed to fair as well as the other 5300/5400 wireless units out in reviews. As well as I mentioned moving the Airport to be closer to the doorbell caused other devices to have worse connections thus I bought a new wireless router as one router wasn't covering my setup.

That is correct about the SG570 being 100 base T but I think it probably has more features turned on than the Asus currently. The Internet bandwidth isn't maxed on either and bandwidth wise they perform similarly with the Snapgear performing significantly better in ping.

I did flash to a newer firmware and did a factory default reset. The configuration was manual and minimal with nothing extra turned on. I tried forgetting and re-associating at your suggestion. I also have run the speed test with just a wired computer on the network and all wireless channels off.

 

[L&LD]

That firmware is technically old.

RMerlin's 380.60 Beta 2 is based off of GPL 380_3479, for instance.

To be clear, the SG570 is the router and the AE was used as an AP, correct (in your speed tests)?

It is confusing which router/AP you are using (or 'wireless channels off') in any specific test scenario. You'll need to be more clear (at least for me, sorry).

If I'm not mistaken, the SG570 does not do WiFi, wired only, so of course the ping will be better?

 

[Enoviles]

That is why I mentioned stock firmware it is running the latest that I am aware of provided by Asus. I consider latest stock the latest manufacturer provided firmware as I am familiar with several routers having other firmware available.

That is correct. In my previous setup the SG570 is the router and the AE was used as an AP in my speed tests.

I turned the wireless channels off on the Asus based on the various issues you said might be causing the ping difference. Ie hopefully reducing wireless usage/issues as a a possible contributor altogether. The speed tests in the old setup had lots of wireless devices and wired devices connected and in the new test, to try and eliminate variables I was using the Asus as a wired router for a single wired PC only to see if that improved performance.

That is correct. The SG570 does not do WiFi and is wired only. The wifi was provided by a second device the AE and together they performed better than the Asus wired or wireless. Likewise with all wireless functions turned off and only one wired device present the previous setup had better pings even with many devices connected to the Snapgear and AE wired or wireless and in both scenarios very similar bandwidth numbers.

 

[L&LD]

'Latest stock firmware' is not descriptive because some may trust the gui's 'check for updates' or other black magic to know if they're current or not.

An actual version number is very unambiguous.

Try using different LAN cables (quality CAT6 or better) on the WAN and LAN ports. If you're using the same cables that were used for your 10/100GbE capable SG570, that might be an issue right there.

I would also suggest returning/exchanging for another RT-AC5300. You may just have a bad example.

 

[Enoviles]

All cabling is CAT 7 involved in the speed test and some unhooked gear has CAT 6.

I thank you for the help and if you are stumped as well I am guessing it is just the unit or perhaps indeed the old equipment performs better than the new. At this point I may return the Asus as it just arrived and sadly buy fairly expensive old tech with a sixth gen Airport that will provide AC vs N of the fifth gen and I believe solve using the fifth gen as an Ethernet connected AP as the Apples seem to not desire to play well with others. However they have been the most rock solid while excellent performing wireless units I have owned and I have owned a few other brands over the years.