Best router to use with a VPN client? (IE Express VPN etc)

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JamesM

Occasional Visitor
Hi,

I currently have a pair of AX92u's, but I was wondering what is the best router for using with a VPN connection (Express VPN etc).

I was looking at the AX11000.

Any input/thoughts? - much appreciated.
 

RMerlin

Asuswrt-Merlin dev
VPN performance will be identical with both of these.
 

Sobster88

Occasional Visitor
Here is the last week of history on my AX88U using Express VPN. Typically getting between 100 and 150 Mbps. Some of the low spots are probably caused by inbound traffic while spdMerlin is running its test. I could probably fine tune it to maximize throughput by searching through different servers, but the one I’m connected to has been extremely reliable.

AC86U should be similar in speeds as it has similar CPU architecture. Both can theoretically do over 250. Before the pandemic I had seen results as high as 220 Mbps.

If you’re looking to go with a wifi 6 router, I highly recommend the AX88U with Merlin installed. It’s a beast.
 

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JamesM

Occasional Visitor
Here is the last week of history on my AX88U using Express VPN. Typically getting between 100 and 150 Mbps. Some of the low spots are probably caused by inbound traffic while spdMerlin is running its test. I could probably fine tune it to maximize throughput by searching through different servers, but the one I’m connected to has been extremely reliable.

AC86U should be similar in speeds as it has similar CPU architecture. Both can theoretically do over 250. Before the pandemic I had seen results as high as 220 Mbps.

If you’re looking to go with a wifi 6 router, I highly recommend the AX88U with Merlin installed. It’s a beast.

Thanks for the input, much appreciated.
 

L&LD

Part of the Furniture
@JamesM that would be the RMerlin powered RT-AC86U and the RT-AX88U. Check your budget and then empty your pockets. :)
 

L&LD

Part of the Furniture
I think you made a sideways and even a downgrade move then. :oops: :)
 

raven-au

Senior Member
@JamesM that would be the RMerlin powered RT-AC86U and the RT-AX88U. Check your budget and then empty your pockets. :)

Personally I found the VPN client in the Merlin firmware better than what's found on the AX11000.
I had some problems with the AX11000 but the AX88U with Merlin has been much better.
For me the VPN client using the x3mrouting script for Merlin works quite well with application selective routing over the VPN, a feature not available on other than Merlin.
Also, I'm pretty sure the AC86U, AX88U and the AX11000 are capable of hardware acceleration with OpenVPN.
 

JamesM

Occasional Visitor
Thanks guys.

Can I use a AX88U with AI Mesh but with a non merlin node?

IE AX88U as router and AX92U (not merlin compat.) as a node?

What's application selective routing?
 

L&LD

Part of the Furniture
Technically yes, you can. In practice, it has already shown to cause issues when the firmware versions are significantly different between them.
 

JamesM

Occasional Visitor
Technically yes, you can. In practice, it has already shown to cause issues when the firmware versions are significantly different between them.
Thanks - I ran a mesh setup as the kids were having signal issues in their rooms.

If I wanted to go crazy could I run two merlin AX88U's in a mesh witout issues?
 

JamesM

Occasional Visitor
Here is the last week of history on my AX88U using Express VPN. Typically getting between 100 and 150 Mbps. Some of the low spots are probably caused by inbound traffic while spdMerlin is running its test. I could probably fine tune it to maximize throughput by searching through different servers, but the one I’m connected to has been extremely reliable.

AC86U should be similar in speeds as it has similar CPU architecture. Both can theoretically do over 250. Before the pandemic I had seen results as high as 220 Mbps.

If you’re looking to go with a wifi 6 router, I highly recommend the AX88U with Merlin installed. It’s a beast.

Could you do me a favour as I'm seeing an issue with the AX92U routers/mesh with VPN.

If I stream to twitch 6Mbps and then top out my download the upload speed to Twitch starts to drop off drastically.
This isn't an issue when I'm not using the VPN.

I'm wondering if it's an Express issue or simply a router issue...?
 

raven-au

Senior Member
Thanks guys.

Can I use a AX88U with AI Mesh but with a non merlin node?

IE AX88U as router and AX92U (not merlin compat.) as a node?

What's application selective routing?

Well yes, but AiMesh is often problematic.
Even so I've been fairly successful using it, currently AX88U main and AX11000 as a node.
I don't have any AX92Us so don't know about those.

For the selective routing see https://www.snbforums.com/threads/x3mrouting-selective-routing-for-asuswrt-merlin-firmware.57793/.
Basically it provides ways to construct lists of IP addresses to use for routing applications (streaming services) via a VPN, or not, for particular VPN client devices.

Ian
 

L&LD

Part of the Furniture
Thanks - I ran a mesh setup as the kids were having signal issues in their rooms.

If I wanted to go crazy could I run two merlin AX88U's in a mesh witout issues?

Sure, if you went crazy. :)

Just know that AiMesh currently doesn't extend the Guest networks (only the main router will be broadcasting those). :)
 

JamesM

Occasional Visitor
Well yes, but AiMesh is often problematic.
Even so I've been fairly successful using it, currently AX88U main and AX11000 as a node.
I don't have any AX92Us so don't know about those.

For the selective routing see https://www.snbforums.com/threads/x3mrouting-selective-routing-for-asuswrt-merlin-firmware.57793/.
Basically it provides ways to construct lists of IP addresses to use for routing applications (streaming services) via a VPN, or not, for particular VPN client devices.

Ian

Thanks, I'll check out the link.
So you have Merlin on the AX88U and normal FW on the AX11000?
 

JamesM

Occasional Visitor
Sure, if you went crazy. :)

Just know that AiMesh currently doesn't extend the Guest networks (only the main router will be broadcasting those). :)

I've noticed this with the AX92U's actually. A bit of an oversight there on ASUS's part.
 

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