I find that trend worrying (of pushing performance through raw power increase). My personal take on the nVIDIA 12V connector issue isn't that the connector is wrong (it was actually confirmed to mostly be a user-error, of a connector not being fully inserted). It's the fact that a regular Joe Average consumer product (a GPU), installed by said Average Joe, involves dealing with a connector made of a few wires that can carry up to 600W of power. I find that worrying, and dangerous.
Definitely, I would say it’s a poor design in that it’s not easy for said average Joe to be sure it’s seated fully and correctly. If this trend persists they will also hit the ceiling of what a standard home outlet will allow you to draw. I can’t imagine every gamer buying a 1600W power supply. Not to mention the literal space heaters they will become. I can’t cool that kind of heat in the summer here.
I replaced my 1660 Ti with a 3070 this summer. I was definitely seeing the temperature difference in my room while running a game.
I undervolted my launch 3070 after finding no gains with overclocking (but a lot more heat). It keeps it a couple degrees cooler, but definitely still warmer than my old 1060 and 2060 Super.
Indeed. With manufacturers pushing the hardware to the limit by applying high voltage amounts to it, the performance cap is most frequently the power limit, not the chip's speed limit. So unless you lost the silicon lottery, undervolting would give you more headroom to push the clocks even higher while at the same power usage as before.
Temperature in my room was going up, from around 21C to 23C after a few hours of play on the 3070. Mind you, that would include the heat generated by both the GPU and the CPU there.
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I forgot the TDP of my 1660 Ti (probably a bit higher than the 120W official TDP since I was overclocking it), but the 3070 currently consumes around 230W during gaming. So roughly this new card would be dumping twice as much heat inside my room under gaming load. And I have no AC, so... gaming in the summer is getting uncomfortable
Yes, except for the GPU upgrade this summer.Same box as this?
5+ months later, the Beast is finally alive
I finally got the CPU to build my new system, after gathering parts since last summer (bought some parts well in advance because of price hikes and shortages related to the human malware), and finally getting ahold of a Ryzen 9 5900X CPU. Compiling all 10 firmware used to take me two hours...
FPS per dollar, they are apparently better. Class against class, they might be slowly behind (and with RT workloads they are a fair bit behind). But if you end up paying 15% less and the loss of 5% FPS, I'd say it's a net win for Team Red and for customers.
Why are you waiting for the X3D variant out of interest?
What sfx2000 said is true about overall value. I mean the extra cache actually can give big gains like 20+% in some in Windows gaming benchmarks I saw for the 5800X3D even if it can’t clock or OC as high as the standard variant, but for productivity and a lot of other stuff the cache I don’t think it gives much of a boost. other than that probably out of vanity, I can’t really actually justify the need though. I may settle for the 7700X3D instead. At least I didn’t say Threadripper or Xeon Platinum, would be an even bigger waste/overkill for my use lol not to mention idle power draw lol, putting affordability aside.
