VPNMON POLL: Who is your preferred VPN provider?

[L&LD]

Not surprised by this at all. Paid-for VPNs are; waste of time and money, with no benefit whatsoever, to me. And to most people who want to 'secure' their browsing habits too.

That is the full quote. What else is there to understand? Saving millions is not the (main) point of people feeling they are secure with a paid-for VPN (by far).

And spending tens of thousands of dollars to 'save' $4K isn't my idea of being too smart either, VPN or not.

 

[Tech9]

What else is there to understand?

I give you an idea what to use a VPN for with potential real benefits to you. Savings of $4000/year versus the cost of NordVPN subscription of $100 for 3 years in my example. My wife doesn't go to work and it takes her about 30min a day to browse interesting offers with vendor coupons. That's all. What I understand well is your "always against" position, even if the benefits are real and the math is quite simple. If the idea is not smart enough for you, just move on.

 

[Viktor Jaep]

I'm seriously considering running my own no-log VPN service out on AWS, which may be a fun experiment. Then perhaps grow it to US-east, US-west, and perhaps something in Sweden... and then @SomeWhereOverTheRainBow and I can launch our own VPN service. In all seriousness... has anyone ever tried this using an Algo VPN server image?

Since Amazon would then be able to see that all traffic coming from and going out would be from my ISP's IP, what would be the ultimate design in privacy to mask traffic coming and going? Would this start requiring random double-hops?

 

[Paliv]

I'm seriously considering running my own no-log VPN service out on AWS, which may be a fun experiment. Then perhaps grow it to US-east, US-west, and perhaps something in Sweden... and then @SomeWhereOverTheRainBow and I can launch our own VPN service. In all seriousness... has anyone ever tried this using an Algo VPN server image?

Since Amazon would then be able to see that all traffic coming from and going out would be from my ISP's IP, what would be the ultimate design in privacy to mask traffic coming and going? Would this start requiring random double-hops?

I’ve used Algo on DigitalOcean with wireguard. It worked very well. But I didn’t want to keep paying for the server so I dropped it.

 

[SomeWhereOverTheRainBow]

I’ve used Algo on DigitalOcean with wireguard. It worked very well. But I didn’t want to keep paying for the server so I dropped it.

I have experience with vultr.

 

[Tech9]

and then @SomeWhereOverTheRainBow and I can launch our own VPN service.

I wouldn't trust someone somewhere over the rainbow with nick name @SomeWhereOverTheRainBow.

The idea is not bad, actually. Small private VPN network, Internet access only. We live in different countries and we can do something about it.

 

[SomeWhereOverTheRainBow]

I wouldn't trust someone somewhere over the rainbow with nick name @SomeWhereOverTheRainBow.

Hahaha. I find it hard to trust the other side of the rainbow as well, hence why it is some where.

 

[Tech9]

I saw a rainbow the other day from my cabin in the woods. Time to move, I guess. It was too close for comfort.

 

[L&LD]

I give you an idea what to use a VPN for with potential real benefits to you. Savings of $4000/year versus the cost of NordVPN subscription of $100 for 3 years in my example. My wife doesn't go to work and it takes her about 30min a day to browse interesting offers with vendor coupons. That's all. What I understand well is your "always against" position, even if the benefits are real and the math is quite simple. If the idea is not smart enough for you, just move on.

No, not smart enough by a long shot.

Stop twisting what is pertinent here. Security vs. 'savings' is not the topic.

And to save $4K a year, you're spending exponentially more. Yawn. False economics.

Your wife is being paid to 'save' $21.735 an hour for her 'work'. Glad that works out for her. I make more than that, even if I had the time to waste half an hour every day.

And I don't have an 'always against' position. You do this, by trying to always twist words to your advantage. Just because you have a point (even if it is in the most obtuse way possible), doesn't mean you should spout it here on the forums.

VPN security was the point of my post. Not what potential/beneficial to your household scams can be run by using them.

When your points are proven irrelevant to the conversation, just move on.

And to put this as bluntly as possible for you: I don't need a VPN for the 'benefit' you're describing. I'm on many different IPs each day as-is (different customer, different IP).

 

[Tech9]

just move on.

I'm moving you to my ignore list instead. You can prove your points with coxhaus there.

 

[L&LD]

Yes, that is the grownup thing to do.

Nobody is on my ignore lists. I take knowledge where it is presented. Even from you, occasionally.

 

[SomeWhereOverTheRainBow]

I saw a rainbow the other day from my cabin in the woods. Time to move, I guess. It was too close for comfort.

Yea I saw three this month. On one of the occasions, I forgot where I was. That is what I call too close for comfort...

 

[Tech9]

Yea I saw three this month.

What have I done to you? We both may have seen the same rainbow. I'm definitely moving to another location.

 

[SomeWhereOverTheRainBow]

What have I done to you?

Is this a rhetorical question? That rainbow must have really had us both twisted.

 

[thiggins]

When your points are proven irrelevant to the conversation, just move on.

@L&LD Please refrain from telling people what they should and should not post.
@Tech9 Please stop yanking @L&LD 's chain. You know he is an easy target.

 

[Smokey613]

In this day of technology there is no such thing as privacy. Maybe if you were living on an uncharted island out on the ocean with no technology but even then, someone with a satellite knows you are there.

As I previously stated, I use a vpn to bypass geo restrictions on sports programming so my wife can watch her favorite MLB team. Even then, only that streaming device is routed through the vpn.

When I am away from home, I use a non dedicated IP TorGuard server whenever I am on wifi.

 

[Tech9]

In this day of technology there is no such thing as privacy.

Correct.

The thread title is "Who is your preferred VPN provider". @Viktor Jaep doesn't specify privacy as main goal. There are other uses of public VPNs.

Please stop yanking @L&LD 's chain.

Who?

Read as: problem solved.

 

[SomeWhereOverTheRainBow]

Correct.

The thread title is "Who is your preferred VPN provider". @Viktor Jaep doesn't specify privacy as main goal. There are other uses of public VPNs.



Who?

Read as: problem solved.

Correct with this statement, there are plenty of reasons for vpns, privacy and security is just a simple catch phrase the vpn provider uses to reel in that crowd. However, there are a multitude of legitimate reasons to use a VPN, and this thread is only about "who" and not the "why".

 

[Tech9]

The information is much more complete when the way we use VPN is described too. Some VPNs are better than others for specific use case. And we had some fun around it. Then the rainbow got some of the participants.

 

[Viktor Jaep]

The information is much more complete when the way we use VPN is described too. Some VPNs are better than others for specific use case. And we had some fun around it. Then the rainbow got some of the participants.

What became an exercise in figuring out what everyone was using in the hopes of finding a better VPN solution, became a lesson that nothing is ever truly private. After some research, you seem to find that the VPN industry is run by organizations who may not have the best interest of their customers in mind. You will even face roadblocks if you wanted to run your own cloud-based VPN server. The ISP, or the one who provides that internet access is always that last roadblock... along with the hosting country's government enforcing its privacy/surveillance policies on its citizens. Nobody is ever truly free.