Confirming if this would work with a AXE16000

[wizin]

My ISP is offering the same price for a 1gbps and 3gbps

Would the following work?

1. AXE16000 which has 2 10GBPS WAN/LAN ports - can I use 1 as WAN and another as LAN for PC
2. For PC, I need to get a 10GBPS network card?
3. Currently, I split my connection from ONT to Switch to 2 routers ( both asus ) but they are gigabit only, so I need to get a 10gbs swtich?

Is this the right way to go?

 

[Tech9]

How exactly do you "split" one fiber connection to 2x routers?

If there is a GbE switch between your ONT and the Router(s) nothing will go faster than GbE, obviously.

 

[wizin]

How exactly do you "split" one fiber connection to 2x routers?

If there is a GbE switch between your ONT and the Router(s) nothing will go faster than GbE, obviously.

Sorry I didn't clarify it earlier

So the Network Switch is 1 gbps
Router 1 is 1 gbps connected to 2 devcies ( I am good with that )
Router 2 is 1 gbps and is connected to PC and other devices ( I want to replace this with AXE16000 ) and order the 3gbps service
I have to replace that Network Switch which is 1gbps to a 10gbps switch - Wil this work? Switch
Then connect 1 of the 10g Ports to AXE16000 10G Port for WAN and use the other 10G port to PC to get the full 3gps? on PC
In addition, if I opt for the 2.5gbps switch, its cheaper but I guess I would lose out 500mbps speed
Backside of AXE16000

As per ASUS Site

1 x 2.5 Gigabit WAN Port
2 x 10 Gigabit WAN/LAN Ports
4 x Gigabit LAN Ports
1 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Port
1 x USB 2.0 Port

Eitherway, am I understanding this correctly? will this work

 

[bbunge]

Still is not clear. An ONT usually provides a connection to a single router. With your description it should not work.

Your picture diagram shows a modem, not ONT, winch if it is a modem/router will hand out IP addresses to the two routers via your switch.

A single router in place of the shown switch will work. Use the two current routers, if Asus, as Aimesh nodes.

 

[wizin]

Still is not clear. An ONT usually provides a connection to a single router. With your description it should not work.

Your picture diagram shows a modem, not ONT, winch if it is a modem/router will hand out IP addresses to the two routers via your switch.

A single router in place of the shown switch will work. Use the two current routers, if Asus, as Aimesh nodes.

I asked ChatGPT to create that image, replace the modem with this image (the blue ethernet is going to the network switch ), and that current setup works, just want to upgrade

 

[Tech9]

Sorry I didn't clarify it earlier

This split configuration is not possible with your Telus ISP fiber connection. Two routers can't use the same PPPoE connection. You perhaps have ISP gateway and your routers are in Double NAT with private WAN IP addresses. This is not the ideal configuration, has limitations and most people avoid it.

You have to replace the switch with 10GbE and have some 10GbE client NICs in order to utilize the new ISP plan. The "free" ISP plan upgrade will cost you good amount of money. Make sure you need it. The everyday user experience will remain the same. Don't invest in speed test. And I know GT-AXE16000 comes on clearance price often, but it was released in Jun 2022. In 3 months it will be 4 years old model.

 

[wizin]

This split configuration is not possible with your Telus ISP fiber connection. Two routers can't use the same PPPoE connection. You perhaps have ISP gateway and your routers are in Double NAT with private WAN IP addresses. This is not the ideal configuration, has limitations and most people avoid it.

You have to replace the switch with 10GbE and have some 10GbE client NICs in order to utilize the new ISP plan. The "free" ISP plan upgrade will cost you good amount of money. Make sure you need it. The everyday user experience will remain the same. And I know GT-AXE16000 comes on clearance price often, but it was released in Jun 2022. In 3 months it will be 4 years old model.

Currently, it works w/o issue. I don;t use ISP gateway

Router 1's devices are 192.168.100.XX
Router 2's devices are 192.168.1.XX

They don't talk to each other, nor do I want to or touch it
It's just upgrading the Router 2 part - so as you said, it will work if I get a 10gbe/2gbe switch, Router with 10g/2.5g WAN/LAN and a PC with ethernet connection of 10g/2.5g

 

[kriukas]

My ISP is offering the same price for a 1gbps and 3gbps

Would the following work?

1. AXE16000 which has 2 10GBPS WAN/LAN ports - can I use 1 as WAN and another as LAN for PC

Check the official specs/manual before asking - yes - you can.

1. For PC, I need to get a 10GBPS network card?

Not necessarily. There are many cheaper 2,5-5 Gbps cards in x1 SFF PCIe. But performance vary.

1. Currently, I split my connection from ONT to Switch to 2 routers ( both asus ) but they are gigabit only, so I need to get a 10gbs swtich?

AFAIK, if your ISP provides 2 WAN IP's from ONT device - you can. With newest firmware and VLAN's I can think, that you can use without a router cheap solution, where 1 router's (call it "upstream") 10 Gbps additional port is "sacrificed" do make mutual WAN domain.

But in your case - original 2,5 Gbps "WAN" port can physically handle 3 Gpbs ONT in the same config. But be aware - this router doesn't handle "bells & whistles" with AV, routing and etc. well on the WLAN / WiFi interfaces, above like ~350 Mbps. CPU is too limited.
Ethernet cable - YES.

Is this the right way to go?

Depends on what you are trying to achieve . I have 1 Gbps 5G connection now, topping at ~950 Mbps and it is enough for me, as I do not game and have configured QoS so that VideoChat and VOIP(Voice over WiFi) has priority - they do no stutter even if download is consuming the rest of the throughput.

Always test:
1. "bare" connection from ISP.
2. Ethernet cable.
3. WiFi.

And do it with:
A. WaveForm BB test.
or
B. LibreQoS BB test
And read and understand and estimate this - BB before.

if you would want to use your internet connection as a human, not as a data hoarder. From my perspective 10 Gbps switch without adequate internal loads, like home data/media server/etc with RAM caching/SSD with NVMe is a waste of money. 2,5 Gbps wire-speed setup is more than enough and the lower the wire speed, the more cheap cable can be used, if distances from routers are short. You do not need 6A category, maybe even 6 and can go cat 5E for short links (like up tp 10-25 meters).

Have a nice day!

 

[wizin]

I have it at 940/940 too and its pretty good, but I thought why not bump it up

 

[kriukas]

My ISP is offering the same price for a 1gbps and 3gbps

Is this the right way to go?

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As long as you do not provide the goals and metrics which and why you should need above 1 Gbps, I think, we are wasting our time (no offence intended really)

 

[kriukas]

I have it at 940/940 too and its pretty good, but I thought why not bump it up

Perhaps because of the fine print somewhere in the agreement, which will be banging your purse next 12+ months?

 

[kriukas]

In addition, if I opt for the 2.5gbps switch, its cheaper but I guess I would lose out 500mbps speed

Eitherway, am I understanding this correctly? will this work

Those 500 Mbps "lost" are completely irrelevant, unless you are the brain surgeon, with augmented VR headest, specialized software and custom OEM manipulators for like 250 k$, doing operations across continents in your home as a second job...

 

[kriukas]

I have it at 940/940 too and its pretty good, but I thought why not bump it up

Do BB test on WLAN side. In the real environment, under real application. When there were the "telecoms" times with cheap cable modems/DSL services like 3 decades ago - the last mile - user side was bottleneck. Now the bottleneck is on the servers side, and only latency - not bandwidth & throughput matters. It doesn't matter, if your load is "typical", and believe me - in >99% it is. You can get adequate latency even on 100 Mbps link! I can watch 2 IPTV in my mothers house on such link @1080p and still have perfectly normal Voice over Wifi VOIP conversation, while browsing the laptop in the Remote Desktop mode. Because of the correct QoS config.

Do not waste resources/effort if there is no need.