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Got two Asus RT-AC66U routers that I'm looking to set up in bridge mode to link two buildings. There is line of sight. Running latest FreshTomato on them.

Can you recommend a good (and available - I'm in Canada) directional, outdoor antenna for them? e.g. I'm thinking panel or yagi. With the correct connector, and not too much extra cable distance to it (e.g. around 1ft would be perfect).

Also which of the three antenna jacks would I plug into? Is one for each band or something? Or (as I suspect from some initial research) are all three used for all the bands - in which case should I buy three for each router? To simplify I can probably disable one of the bands (2.4GHz or 5GHz).

Thanks!
 
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Well, I've been looking at antennas and connectors for my T-Mobile gateway and most of the hype is just that when it comes to antennas. I've tried a ton of different antennas from 3dbi-8dbi and slim jim types to Alfa panels and they all do the same thing.

So, you could spend $10 for 4 antennas or $500 for some fancy looking panels that have the same cheap $10 antennas inside of them.

The distance between buildings though will make a difference in which to go with. If we're talking about a couple hundred feet on 2.4ghz it shouldn't be that big of a deal to use cheap antennas. If you want them to be outside of the glass you can get some cheap bases like Trendnet @ $15 for dual antennas w/ a 3 foot cord. These work just as well for extending things away from the main unit or placing them on the exterior window sill.

For the antennas I've been falling back to these - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N6GO584/?tag=snbforums-20 @ $6/ea on the gateway but, even these - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082SH6QH6/?tag=snbforums-20 and https://www.amazon.com/dp/B097RCC4XB/?tag=snbforums-20 have worked the same. Part of my issue is I'm directly under the cell site but, if I take the GW outside and about 50 feet from the building my speeds jump from 200mbps to close to 600mbps DL.

In this situation though shooting from one building to another I would start cheap and work your way up. Even the Alfa antennas are relatively cheap at $9/ea.

They offer "some" directionality but, I couldn't get them to do any better than any other antenna in my situation. They did improve some signal stats though but, the speeds didn't really jump like I had hoped. Through this process though I've looked at everything from panels to directional to yahi to log periodic options.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08M9WMDSR/?tag=snbforums-20 - $20 + cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0995T2L6R/?tag=snbforums-20 - $8 -- these might do something more directional at a cheaper than $180 like your linked antennas.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XSP2CFM/?tag=snbforums-20 - $54/ea - these appear to be even more directional and could be an option as well.

The triangle bullet enclosures though you see for most "directional" antennas just don't seem to make sense after trying a bunch of different options as the plastic enclosure just hides the small antenna elements inside for weather proofing. The additional plastic to me would mean less signal penetration. RF is a tricky business. Also, taking into consideration that the field of radiation gets tighter with the higher numbers and more focused w/ less room for error in pointing the signal.

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Thanks for those suggestions, I will check them out. I really am looking for something directional. If I don't go MIMO would I just hook up to the center jack? Have you tried this and what kind of results?

The buildings are a few hundred meters. They'd probably be able to connect with the standard OEM antennas but I don't want to pollute all over the place with noise, and I'd like a very strong link (that's moderately impervious to bad weather, interference, etc). They will be installed for several years so cost isn't a major issue. Dual-band isn't critical (I'd probably turn off one of the radios anyway, unless I figure out how to bond them for more bandwidth).
 
Well, for distance you're going to be using 2.4ghz as 5ghz doesn't go the distance. Cellular / 5G is in the same bands as WIFI 1700-2400mhz is what I found from different antennas / docs / etc.

MIMO or not splicing off one antenna output to use for the B2B directional shouldn't impact the LAN too much for other devices. Only the remote building will be slower on 2.4ghz @ ~150mbps maybe faster depending on the link quality, My 2.4 on AX usually nets me about 270mbps link and that's sitting in the same room as the AP.

Few hundred meters I would probably got with the flat panel option above @ $54/.ea / 9dbi puts you in the 50 mile range

I use something similar for TV and it works well for OTA signals though not quite directional as the above but, still not unsightly. I tried the larger version but, the smaller one works just as well if not better for my signal conditions w/ the broadcasting towers @ 10-15 miles.

The only thing about those flat paper antennas is with the directional ones you might need to get a bit creative in how you mount it to point at each other. I suspect you could adhere it to an eve though somehow or make a platform for it.

The other option is the traditional yagi options that are slightly cheaper but, pole mounted and weatherized.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W8614W1/?tag=snbforums-20 - these might come in handy if you need to adapt from the router side to antenna cable $7

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089VXJV14/?tag=snbforums-20 - N cable / $38
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083J3F9N2/?tag=snbforums-20 - N cable / $39
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F3W8VC8/?tag=snbforums-20 - N cable / $55 / Panel

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078PKFVKQ/?tag=snbforums-20 - N adapter / $4
 
For my 5G I have 4 RF ports for different bands and for the WIFI side I have 4 ports 2x2.4 and 2x5ghz

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WIFI 10/13 are 5Ghz and 11/12 are 2.4ghz. So, for me I like speed and connected some PCB antennas to 10/13 and left 11/12 disconnected. I also disabled them in the app to reduce interference with my AP. But I put on some 8dbi PCB's that perform just as well as my main AP for $9 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T8BFBCD/?tag=snbforums-20

The antennas that were built into it worked fine, but of course being a nerd I ripped it apart and reengineered it completely. The new slabs are 3X the size and I stuck them to the heat sink on a single side for more directionality since I have the cellular side pointing out of the house and the WIFI internally. The OEM design had 4 of them mounted to the top like a crown on all 4 sides along with the same BS on the cellular side.
 
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