DHCP hostname assignment does not work

[mutlucan]

I want to use host names instead of IP addresses. From what I learned about this, I configured like these:




I access to router's UI using "router.local" just fine. I assigned "192.168.1.210" with "pihole.local" but it does not work.


Not sure if it is related but Pihole is a docker container hosted by the Unraid server. I tried the additional parameter "--host pihole.local" but it did not work either.

 

[ColinTaylor]

The client (fedora) machine is probably running its own DNS server that's configured incorrectly. Try querying the router directly:

nslookup pihole 192.168.1.1

I'd also suggest that you don't use local for your LAN domain name as this conflicts with Avahi's (mDNS) use of it. Use something like home.lan instead.

 

[mutlucan]

The client (fedora) machine is probably running its own DNS server that's configured incorrectly. Try querying the router directly:

nslookup pihole 192.168.1.1

I'd also suggest that you don't use local for your LAN domain name as this conflicts with Avahi's (mDNS) use of it. Use something like home.lan instead.

[mutlu@fedora ~]$ nslookup pihole 192.168.1.1
Server:        192.168.1.1
Address:    192.168.1.1#53


Name:    pihole.local
Address: 192.168.1.210

I did not change anything on my client network configuration. DNS is set to auto. In fact, I can't access pihole.local from any other device either.
Note that I can access router with router.local just fine. If something would wrong with the DNS config, shouldn't I also can't access it there?

Thanks for the info about local. I will change it now.

 

[ColinTaylor]

The reason you can access router.local is likely because your client is using mDNS (which is running on the router) to resolve the name instead of DNS. It's for exactly this reason I suggest not using .local for DNS, it just leads to confusion.

We've seen the problem you're experiencing before with Ubuntu. Are you running any Windows clients?

 

[mutlucan]

Oh, since it was a suggestion, I didn't think it would be the reason.
I just changed it from local to home and it worked!
Thanks!
An off-topic small annoyance, browsers try to make a search when I use .lan or .home. I will try to find something that doesn't cause this.

 

[ColinTaylor]

My preference is to use home.lan as the local domain name (similar to most public domains, e.g. google.com) rather than just lan.

 

[mutlucan]

Yes, but browsers still make a web search when it is typed on the address bar without starting with "HTTP://". At least it doesn't do that if I visit the page once.

 

[drinkingbird]

Yes, but browsers still make a web search when it is typed on the address bar without starting with "HTTP://". At least it doesn't do that if I visit the page once.

Since lan.com doesn't seem to work on the internet, just use that as your local domain. Or pick whatever you want that you'll never need to hit via the internet. That is if typing http:// is too much of an annoyance. Or make it something like intra.lan.com or me.lan.com or whatever domain you want, as it is unlikely they'd use something that specific.

 

[dave14305]

Doesn’t roll off the tongue, but good enough for me.

RFC 8375: Special-Use Domain 'home.arpa.'

www.rfc-editor.org

 

[ColinTaylor]

Doesn’t roll off the tongue, but good enough for me.

RFC 8375: Special-Use Domain 'home.arpa.'

www.rfc-editor.org

Hmm, I'm not convinced. Seems to be adding complexity/confusion rather than simplifying things.

 

[Crimliar]

Okay, so I was under the impression that you could only access Docker containers by their host name from the machine they are running on.

 

[bbunge]

Hmm, I'm not convinced. Seems to be adding complexity/confusion rather than simplifying things.

View attachment 50640

try: home.arpa

Omit the trailing period

 

[ColinTaylor]

try: home.arpa

That's not the point though. According to the RFC Dave posted the reserved domain is home.arpa. not home.arpa It's meant to replace .home

EDIT: I'd guess it'd work on the grounds that trailing dots are ignored/presumed anyway.

 

[mutlucan]

Thanks for the suggestions. I found another suggestion myself
Just adding / at the end is enough for the browser to detect it as a URL. Like this: home.lan/

 

[dave14305]

That's not the point. According to the RFC Dave posted the reserved domain is home.arpa. not home.arpa It's meant to replace .home

RFC Errata Report » RFC Editor

www.rfc-editor.org

 

[ColinTaylor]

RFC Errata Report » RFC Editor

www.rfc-editor.org

Thanks Dave. I'd just edited my previous post when you posted this.

So it's just the "official" way of referring to FQDN's. So to the layman like me it effectively means "home.arpa" (the missing trailing dot being presumed as the root).

 

[Crimliar]

@mutlucan did you get this up and running in the way you expected? I only ask because I've done this, but took a very different tangent to that discussed!